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From: ed van der meulen
Subject: [Savannah-register-public] [task #3657] Submission of North North West non-polynomial
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:16:21 +0000
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                 Summary: Submission of North North West non-polynomial
                 Project: Savannah Administration
            Submitted by: ameulen
            Submitted on: Tue 01/18/2005 at 16:16
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 1. Submitter: ameulen (ed van der meulen)


 2. Project UNIX Name: nnw-np


 3. Project Descriptive Name: North North West non-polynomial


 4. License: GNU General Public License (GPL) (free sofrtware)


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 5. Project Description: NNW-NP ( North North West non polynomial problems)


 Bring back and develop NP in a friendly approach, using whats needed, why


 6. Registration Description: We know Gödel with his incompleteness proof. We
know of Popper with his idea falsify the theories and find new approaches.


 A great project to look in an new way to that mathematical NP problems. Look
at the traveling salesman. He travels along fixed cities and has to find the
shortest route. The answer can change when we will shift a city a little bit.
A city can be situated at a critical spot. We have already some 40 emails
about it. Jon Tait and I have exchanged them. The way is to use all
information that is available. And not using just one theory, which is more
limited. The wide world has more information. That are our ways. These are
very wanted products as well.


 We say we have enough large computes so the cities have integer coordinates.
That is nice. We look up distances in a table now. And computing stays
limited. So lazy we are, for sure.


 For instance. When we have a route can we shift a city so the route stays
the same. This kind of information we can use as well.


 Or the opposite. We have an ideal route. readily the shortest one. Maybe
there are more. Finding one is the goal. But what can we see as the
properties then. Global and local properties. And in this way we are


 So we thank Jon Tait for his work and the emails we have exchanged. Jon
Tait's applet:


 We have now a clearer picture of Factual Thinking. Also where we see
striking things, also here we recognize them we identify them we can see
essential things. Is this Factual thinking. We can use that for this


 We already know that we see with our eyes into directions and then find
things. So we don't start with the cities nor the routes but we find them.
This is already opposite to the normal mathematical way.


 We have written about 40 long emails about. Which is enough for us for a
serious start.

Please have a nice day

ed van der meulen



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