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[Savannah-help-public] [sr #106612] Preparation for switching Emacs from


From: Sylvain Beucler
Subject: [Savannah-help-public] [sr #106612] Preparation for switching Emacs from CVS to bzr on Savannah.
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:44:45 +0000
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Follow-up Comment #2, sr #106612 (project administration):

Hi,

> GNU Emacs is getting close to switching from CVS to bzr

The thread you mentioned starts with some kind of bug report (about a
CVS->bzr mirror??) and mentions git. Is this serious?


> bzr on Savannah is still in beta?

Yes, the bzr server-side didn't evolve afaik. A clean way to provide bzr
support would involve using a restricted shell environment that run the bzr
client (like cvs/svn/git/hg do), but so far the preferred way to access bzr is
still sftp, and I don't know about maintained server-side hooks that would
allow proper on-commit e-mail notifications.

Afaics launchpad and alioth provide bzr through a non-restricted shell
environment where people essentially install and configure repos by
themselves, an environment where's not planning to offer since it's a
different beast to maintain security-wise.

So yes, currently it's in test, which means it's subject to change along with
server-side improvements (though it hasn't much).


> bzr 1.11 is now released; is Savannah on that?

I believe you have a good understanding of bzr. Given that bzr works on top
of sftp, what's the point in having bzr even installed at Savannah? :)

More to the point, we run the Debian package from backports.org, which is
currently frozen at 1.5-1 along with Lenny, so it would be inconvenient to
upgrade now - should we need it.


> We're still doing some test conversions, but things are
> looking good so far.

I'd like to know the status of the 'emacs' branch that the GNU Arch service
has been "abused" into hosting.
(http://arch.savannah.gnu.org/archives/emacs/bzr/)
Is it used?
Can it be removed?


> I think soon we're going to schedule a "flag day" for the
> switchover. Among other things, that will mean the CVS
> repository goes into read-only mode, which is something
> we'll need to coordinate with you.

The best is to write an 'at' job to install the proper CVS commit hook on
time. We can do that.


> I just learned from sr #106531 that we don't have a
> Loggerhead installation at Savannah. Can we?

I actually installed it a while ago http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/ following
a Gnash request but apparently it broke and nobody reported it. I wish there
were a proper init script (I reported it at the loggerhead project). Anyway we
can enable it, but possible close it if this becomes a resources hog.


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