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Re: get_relocated_path: the configured paths are not looked for?


From: Michael Tokarev
Subject: Re: get_relocated_path: the configured paths are not looked for?
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2023 14:31:32 +0300
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23.04.2023 14:22, Akihiko Odaki пишет:
On 2023/04/23 19:28, Michael Tokarev wrote:
20.04.2023 08:29, Akihiko Odaki wrote:
On 2023/04/19 16:32, Michael Tokarev wrote:
Hello!

Today I discovered an interesting issue here: I copied a system-installed
binary into another directory, in order to debug an unrelated issue. Just
to discover it does not work, being unable to find any modules or data
files.

Here's how the strace of typical qemu-system-i386 run looks like (the
relevant parts only):

access("/tmp/qemu-bundle", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
access("/tmp/b/../lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qemu/accel-tcg-i386.so", F_OK) = -1 
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
access("/var/run/qemu/Debian_1_8.0~rc4+dfsg-3/accel-tcg-i386.so", F_OK) = -1 
ENOENT (No such file or directory)

(the executable in this case is in /tmp, obviously).  And it fails with
error "fatal: could not load module for type 'tcg-accel-ops'".

This is despite the fact that qemu has been configured with proper --libdir
and other --foodir to point to actual dirs such as /usr/lib /usr/share etc.

Some files in QEMU installation is closely coupled with the binary so it does not make much sense to copy only the executable to another directory. You need to copy all of the files QEMU owns to relocate a QEMU installation. QEMU uses relative paths to find such relocated files.

That said, it is indeed confusing that QEMU uses relative paths even if you specify an absolute path for --libdir. I prefer to require to specify relative paths for --libdir and other options to make a QEMU installation relocatable, but I didn't dare making such a breaking change.

Well, quite often it makes little sense still.

For example, in debian we had to (temporarily) move qemu-system-i386 from
/usr/bin/ to /usr/libexec/, replacing the /usr/bin/ one with a shell wrapper
(to decouple xen hvm build out of main qemu build). It was just by a chance
the directory nesting is the same still, - I wanted to move it to /usr/lib/qemu/
instead.  But at least this one still works.  Ditto for the actual xen version,
the binary is in /usr/libexec/qemu-system-i386-xen now, I was about to move it
to /usr/libexec/xen/qemu-system-i386 instead.

I see absolutely no reason for the binary to look into 
/usr/libexec/share/qemu/bios.bin
if it is told to get all data files from /usr/share/qemu/.

What about specifying --bindir=/usr/libexec/xen?

It will try to find other binaries in /usr/libexec/xen/, which are actually in
/usr/bin.

As you say, data files are not tightly coupled with QEMU version and it is 
quite possible to run QEMU with data files from another QEMU version.

Nope and nope: first, I never said it (it was you who said that), and second,
it is quite okay to mix-n-match data files with qemu binaries. We're way past
the times when each minor qemu release required its own build of vgabios.

If we're to require qemu-version-specific data dir, it would be something
like /usr/share/qemu/$qemu_version/bios.bin.

However it's not true for all files QEMU installs. Especially module files like accel-tcg-i386.so are tightly coupled with the executable and QEMU is not expected to work if the exact modules which came with the executable are not provided.

The .so files are different. There are also other modules (block-iscsi.so).
*Those* are already in version-specific subdir of a lbdir.

I think I'll just remove this (very questionable) behavior at least from the
Debian package.  I already patched out the previous version of this, when
it looked at ${exe_path}/../pc-bios - this at least made sense when we
needed to find firmware files for just-built qemu, in the source dir. But
it makes no sense (in my opinion) to do that for the installed version.

It uses qemu-bundle directory for just-built QEMU so it does not matter for the 
scenario.

Yes. Still I want to be able to run tests, - this is exactly what the older code
looking for ../pc-bios/ did, and what current qemu-bundle code does.

The scenario where this conversion for relative path makes sense is the case you need to compare the behavior of two packaged versions of QEMU, for example. In such case, you can extract each package into a different directory and run them. Each QEMU executable will use relative paths to find modules tied with it.

This is exactly what I do, - comparing qemu binaries from different packaged
builds. And this is exactly where it fails, - because the "other" binary is
not finding the binary files even if it were built with 
--qemu-datadir=/usr/share/qemu/
and all the binaries is there.

It should be the other way around: if you want this qemu to use a non-standard
path for firmware, - say, when you extracted "another" package in a temp dir
and need that one to use its own data dir - you run it wiht -L argument.

Thanks,

/mjt



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