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Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals
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Markus Armbruster |
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Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals |
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Tue, 24 Nov 2020 16:20:37 +0100 |
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Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> writes:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 09:49:30AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 08:51:27AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> >> Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 06:29:16AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> >> [...]
>> >> >> When the structure of a data type is to be kept away from its users, I
>> >> >> prefer to keep it out of the public header, so the compiler enforces
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> encapsulation.
>> >> >
>> >> > I prefer that too, except that it is impossible when users of the
>> >> > API need the compiler to know the struct size.
>> >>
>> >> There are cases where the structure of a data type should be
>> >> encapsulated, yet its size must be made known for performance (avoid
>> >> dynamic memory allocation and pointer chasing).
>> >>
>> >> Need for encapsulation correlates with complex algorithms and data
>> >> structures. The cost of dynamic allocation is often in the noise then.
>> >
>> > I don't know what we are talking about anymore. None of this
>> > applies to the QNum API, right?
>> >
>> > QNum/QNumValue are not complex data structures, and the reason we
>> > need the compiler to know the size of QNumValue is not related to
>> > performance at all.
>>
>> We started with the question whether to make QNumValue's members
>> private. We digressed to the question when to make members private.
>> So back to the original question.
>>
>> > We might still want to discourage users of the QNum API from
>> > accessing QNum.u/QNumValue.u directly. Documenting the field as
>> > private is a very easy way to do it.
>>
>> It's a complete non-issue. QNum has been around for years, and we
>> haven't had any issues that could've been plausibly avoided by asking
>> people to refrain from accessing its members.
>>
>> If there was an actual need to keep the members private, I'd move the
>> struct out of the header, so the compiler enforces privacy.
>
> Understood. There's still a question I'd like to answer, to
> decide how the API documentation should look like:
>
> Is QNum.u/QNumValue.u required to be part of the API
> documentation?
>
> If accessing that field directly is not necessary for using the
> API, I don't think it should appear in the documentation (because
> it would be just noise).
The current patch's comment on QNumValue looks good to me.
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- Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals, (continued)
- Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals, Markus Armbruster, 2020/11/20
- Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals, Eduardo Habkost, 2020/11/20
- Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals, Markus Armbruster, 2020/11/23
- Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals, Eduardo Habkost, 2020/11/23
- Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals, Markus Armbruster, 2020/11/24
- Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals, Eduardo Habkost, 2020/11/24
- Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals,
Markus Armbruster <=
- Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals, Eduardo Habkost, 2020/11/24
- Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals, Markus Armbruster, 2020/11/25
- Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] qnum: QNumValue type for QNum value literals, Eduardo Habkost, 2020/11/25
[PATCH v2 4/8] qnum: qnum_value_is_equal() function, Eduardo Habkost, 2020/11/16
Re: [PATCH v2 4/8] qnum: qnum_value_is_equal() function, Markus Armbruster, 2020/11/19