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Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU
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Eduardo Habkost |
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Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU |
Date: |
Fri, 20 Nov 2020 13:09:36 -0500 |
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 06:41:35PM +0100, Claudio Fontana wrote:
> On 11/20/20 6:19 PM, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 01:13:33PM +0100, Claudio Fontana wrote:
> >> On 11/18/20 11:07 PM, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 08:13:18PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >>>> On 18/11/20 18:30, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> >>>>>> Adding a layer of indirect calls is not very different from monkey
> >>>>>> patching
> >>>>>> though.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm a little bothered by monkey patching, but I'm more
> >>>>> bothered by having to:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (1) register (module_init()) a function (kvm_cpu_accel_register()) that
> >>>>> (2) register (accel_register_call()) a function
> >>>>> (kvm_cpu_accel_init()) that
> >>>>> (3) register (x86_cpu_accel_init()) a data structure (X86CPUAccel
> >>>>> kvm_cpu_accel) that
> >>>>> (4) will be saved in multiple QOM classes, so that
> >>>>> (5) we will call the right X86CPUClass.accel method at the
> >>>>> right moment
> >>>>> (common_class_init(), instance_init(), realizefn()),
> >>>>> where:
> >>>>> step 4 must be done before any CPU object is created
> >>>>> (otherwise X86CPUAccel.instance_init & X86CPUAccel.realizefn
> >>>>> will be silently ignored), and
> >>>>> step 3 must be done after all QOM types were registered.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You also have to consider that accel currently does not exist in
> >>>>>> usermode
> >>>>>> emulators, so that's an issue too. I would rather get a simple change
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> quickly, instead of designing the perfect class hierarchy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It doesn't have to be perfect. I agree that simple is better.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To me, registering a QOM type and looking it up when necessary is
> >>>>> simpler than the above. Even if it's a weird class having no
> >>>>> object instances. It probably could be an interface type.
> >>>>
> >>>> Registering a QOM type still has quite some boilerplate. [...]
> >>>
> >>> We're working on that. :)
> >>>
> >>>> [...] Also
> >>>> registering a
> >>>> QOM type has a public side effect (shows up in qom-list-types). In
> >>>> general
> >>>> I don't look at QOM unless I want its property mechanism, but maybe
> >>>> that's
> >>>> just me.
> >>>
> >>> We have lots of internal-use-only types returned by
> >>> qom-list-types, I don't think it's a big deal.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Perhaps another idea would be to allow adding interfaces to classes
> >>>>>> *separately from the registration of the types*. Then we can use it to
> >>>>>> add
> >>>>>> SOFTMMU_ACCEL and I386_ACCEL interfaces to a bare bones accel class,
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> add the accel object to usermode emulators.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not sure I follow. What do you mean by bare bones accel
> >>>>> class, and when exactly would you add the new interfaces to the
> >>>>> classes?
> >>>>
> >>>> A bare bones accel class would not have init_machine and setup_post
> >>>> methods;
> >>>> those would be in a TYPE_SOFTMMU_ACCEL interface. It would still have
> >>>> properties (such as tb-size for TCG) and would be able to register compat
> >>>> properties.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >>>
> >>> Oh, I think I see. This could save us having a lot of parallel type
> >>> hierarchies.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Where would I add it, I don't know. It could be a simple public wrapper
> >>>> around type_initialize_interface() if we add a new MODULE_INIT_* phase
> >>>> after
> >>>> QOM.
> >>>>
> >>>> Or without adding a new phase, it could be a class_type->array of
> >>>> (interface_type, init_fn) hash table. type_initialize would look up the
> >>>> class_type by name, add the interfaces would to the class with
> >>>> type_initialize_interface, and then call the init_fn to fill in the
> >>>> vtable.
> >>>
> >>> That sounds nice. I don't think Claudio's cleanup should be
> >>> blocked until this new mechanism is ready, though.
> >>>
> >>> We don't really need the type representing X86CPUAccel to be a
> >>> subtype of TYPE_ACCEL or an interface implemented by
> >>> current_machine->accelerator, in the first version. We just need
> >>> a simple way for the CPU initialization code to find the correct
> >>> X86CPUAccel struct.
> >>>
> >>> While we don't have the new mechanism, it can be just a:
> >>> object_class_by_name("%s-x86-cpu-accel" % (accel->name))
> >>> call.
> >>>
> >>> Below is a rough draft of what I mean. There's still lots of
> >>> room for cleaning it up (especially getting rid of the
> >>> X86CPUClass.common_class_init and X86CPUClass.accel fields).
> >>>
> >>> git tree at
> >>> https://gitlab.com/ehabkost/qemu/-/commits/work/qom-based-x86-cpu-accel
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
> > [...]
> >>> /**
> >>> - * X86CPUAccel:
> >>> - * @name: string name of the X86 CPU Accelerator
> >>> - *
> >>> + * X86CPUAccelInterface:
> >>> * @common_class_init: initializer for the common cpu
> >>> * @instance_init: cpu instance initialization
> >>> * @realizefn: realize function, called first in x86 cpu realize
> >>> @@ -85,14 +83,16 @@ struct X86CPUClass {
> >>> * X86 CPU accelerator-specific CPU initializations
> >>> */
> >>>
> >>> -struct X86CPUAccel {
> >>> - const char *name;
> >>> -
> >>> +struct X86CPUAccelInterface {
> >>> + ObjectClass parent_class;
> >>> void (*common_class_init)(X86CPUClass *xcc);
> >>> void (*instance_init)(X86CPU *cpu);
> >>> void (*realizefn)(X86CPU *cpu, Error **errp);
> >>> };
> >>>
> >>> -void x86_cpu_accel_init(const X86CPUAccel *accel);
> >>> +#define TYPE_X86_CPU_ACCEL "x86-cpu-accel"
> >>> +OBJECT_DECLARE_INTERFACE(X86CPUAccel, X86CPUAccelInterface,
> >>> X86_CPU_ACCEL);
> >>
> >>
> >> I am not exactly sure what precisely you are doing here,
> >>
> >> I get the general intention to use the existing interface-related "stuff"
> >> in QOM,
> >> but I do not see any OBJECT_DECLARE_INTERFACE around, and does not seem
> >> like the other boilerplate used for interfaces.
> >
> > See the git URL I sent above, for other related changes:
> >
> > https://gitlab.com/ehabkost/qemu/-/commits/work/qom-based-x86-cpu-accel
>
>
> Aaah I missed this, there are quite a few more changes there;
>
> for me it's great if you take it from there, I see you are
> developing a solution on top of the previous series.
I'm a bit busy with other stuff, so I'm probably not going to be
able to make sure the patches are in a good shape to be submitted
soon.
I don't want to impose any obstacles for the work you are doing,
either. Please consider the patch I sent (and the git tree
above) as just an example of a possible solution to the two issues
Paolo raised at
8f829e99-c346-00bc-efdd-3e6d69cfba35@redhat.com">https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/8f829e99-c346-00bc-efdd-3e6d69cfba35@redhat.com
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> Could you clarify what happens here? Should we just use a normal object,
> >> call it "Interface" and call it a day?
> >
> > An interface is declared in a very similar way, but instance_size
> > and the instance type cast macro is a bit different (because
> > instances of interface types are never created directly).
> >
> > For the draft we have here, it shouldn't make any difference if
> > you use OBJECT_DECLARE_TYPE, because the instance type cast
> > macros are left unused.
> >
> > Normally the use case for interfaces is not like what I did here.
> > Interfaces are usually attached to other classes (to declare that
> > object instances of that class implement the methods of that
> > interface). Using interfaces would be just an intermediate step
> > to the solution Paolo was mentioning (dynamically adding
> > interface to classes, see [1] above).
> >
>
> Makes sense to me,
> let me know how you guys would like to proceed from here.
>
To me, the main issue (also raised by Paolo above) is the fact
that you are doing *_enabled() checks in the module init
functions. Every single use case we have for module init
functions today is for unconditionally registering code or data
structures provided by a code module (config group names, QOM
types, block backends, multifd methods, etc.), and none of them
depend on runtime options (like machine or accelerator options).
The x86_cpu_accel_init() calls, on the other hand, are not module
initialization, but just one additional step of
machine/accelerator/cpu initialization.
> The thing I am still uncertain about, looking at your tree at:
>
> https://gitlab.com/ehabkost/qemu/-/commits/work/qom-based-x86-cpu-accel
>
> is the removal of MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, it would be way simpler to
> understand I think,
> both for CpuAccelOps and X86CPUAccel, and is actualy in my view a perfect fit
> for
> the problem that module_call_init is supposed to solve.
That was one of my goals. My first goal was the removal of the
(hvm|kvm|tcg)_enabled() checks in the accel init functions. My
secondary goal (and a side effect of the first goal) was making
MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU unnecessary.
If we are not trying to remove the *_enabled() checks in the
accel init functions (nor trying to make MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU
unnecessary), my suggestion of using QOM doesn't make things
simpler.
Let's hear what Paolo thinks.
If you want to proceed with the accel_register_call() solution
suggested by Paolo, that's OK to me. I just don't think we
really need it, because QOM already solves the problem for us.
--
Eduardo
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, (continued)
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Eduardo Habkost, 2020/11/18
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Paolo Bonzini, 2020/11/18
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Eduardo Habkost, 2020/11/18
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Paolo Bonzini, 2020/11/18
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Eduardo Habkost, 2020/11/18
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Paolo Bonzini, 2020/11/18
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Eduardo Habkost, 2020/11/18
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Claudio Fontana, 2020/11/20
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Eduardo Habkost, 2020/11/20
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Claudio Fontana, 2020/11/20
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU,
Eduardo Habkost <=
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Claudio Fontana, 2020/11/23
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Claudio Fontana, 2020/11/23
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Paolo Bonzini, 2020/11/23
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Claudio Fontana, 2020/11/23
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Paolo Bonzini, 2020/11/23
- Re: [RFC v3 8/9] module: introduce MODULE_INIT_ACCEL_CPU, Eduardo Habkost, 2020/11/23
[RFC v3 9/9] i386: split cpu accelerators from cpu.c, Claudio Fontana, 2020/11/18