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Re: [Pan-users] Problem with links

From: Duncan
Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Problem with links
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:34:49 +0000 (UTC)
User-agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT 1f91845 /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2)

Travis posted on Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:32:32 -0700 as excerpted:

> -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Needle Sent: Wednesday, August
> 29, 2012 5:37 PM To: address@hidden
> Subject: [Pan-users] Problem with links
>> Using Pan 0.136 on a Ubuntu 12.04 system.
>> For some reason, when I click on a link, I can't get my web browser to
>> open.  I have to copy the link and paste it into the browser bar.  Not
>> a critical problem, but a minor pain.  Any thoughts on why this is
>> happening?  Thanks.
> Please do not post in HTML.

Thanks, Travis. =:^)

FWIW, the desired option is usually labeled plain text format, or 
something similar.
As I've noted before, there's reasons pan doesn't do html.  This is the 
pan list and a number of regulars here actually use pan to read the 
list.  As such, even for people who do choose to post HTML in other 
circumstances, posting it here... is really a slap in the fact to both 
pan's devs and the users who choose to use it!  (Why a user would slap 
/themselves/ in the face is another question, but anyway...)

Then AFTER that slap in the face to those who might help them, some 
posters have the utter gall to post questions, presumably expecting 
reasonable answers!

<shakes head>

But... being the nice guy I usually am, while I do generally ask such 
posters to stop posting in HTML, I do usually still answer the question.  
Maybe I have a masochistic streak or something.  <shrug>  I prefer to 
explain it as an honest desire to help, even when the people asking 
aren't so cooperative or nice in doing so...

So... to try to answer the question now that it's plain text... (Again, 
thanks Travis =:^)...

Have you checked pan preferences or did you simply assume they were set 
appropriately for your usage?  What does the applications tab, web 
browser option, say, and is it appropriate to your chosen desktop?  If so 
and it still isn't working, you can try setting custom and filling in the 
blank with your preference.

(Back to the HTML thing.  The post here was HTML, but at least it was 
/moderate/ HTML.  Over on the kde lists today, there was a post of nearly 
500 lines *OF* *HTML* CODE!  That's the first time in a very long time 
that I haven't tried to answer the question as well as ask them to set 
plain text instead of HTML next time, BECAUSE IN ALL THAT HTML presumably 
to be read by the browser not a human, I COULDN'T SEE THE MESSAGE FOR THE 
HUMAN TO READ!  Maybe it was scrolled off-screen or something.  <shrug>

Anyway, that was just too much.  I wasn't going to eyeball the whole 
thing looking for a word here and a word there of text to try to put 
together, or spend a lot of time scrolling this way and that to find it, 
so for once I didn't even try to answer the question as I couldn't see 
it!  I just answered, saying if I wasn't just replying to a spammer, 
please post in plain text (and remarking about nearly 500 lines of HTML, 
with so little real message among the noise that I didn't see it).

At least the one here, while an eye sore with all the raw HTML, was still 
decently readable by a human seeing only the raw unparsed text including 
the HTML.  As I found out today, that's something! =:^)  !  I had 
forgotten just how bad it could be!)

Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

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