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Re: [Pan-users] Re: Re: Dear Members Sky Bank Please Verify Acconts !


From: Jeff Vian
Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Re: Re: Dear Members Sky Bank Please Verify Acconts !
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:49:10 -0500

On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 05:23 -0700, Duncan wrote:
> Jeff Vian posted <address@hidden>, excerpted
> below,  on Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:14:34 -0500:
> 
> > And just what does that difference have to do with it?  The address for
> > the list was obviously harvested somewhere with a valid members address.
> > Anybody who is subscribed to the list can see the addresses of those who
> > post.
> 
> As I posted to the devel list, where this also showed (it also showed on
> the announce list, which I thought was read-only for most??), I suspect a
> subscriber is infected -- that it wasn't a deliberate post but rather
> something automated.
> 
> I'm guessing the mystery person is mostly a lurker so there wouldn't be
> much to be done to trace and warn them (there's very little I could make
> out of the headers as processed by gmane, but I'm not much of a mail
> tracer and someone getting it directly might do better).  Of course, it's
> also almost certainly someone reading the list on MSWormOS, using a
> security-seive MS client with full HTML/scripting/ActiveHex turned on, who
> hasn't kept up with their updates...
> 
probably true

> Remember that the list address would be stored in the address book like
> any other address.  An automated malware spam spewer wouldn't know the
> difference, nor would the author likely care, particularly when it's
> delivered like any other mail to some who may not have incoming filters
> set up to sort list mail into separate folders automatically.
> 
> The fact that it got to the announce list/group was interesting tho... 
> Either poor Charles was experimenting with his MSWormOS PAN build again
> and has made the mistake of running an unprotected mail client and getting
> 0wn3d, or the announce list isn't as closed as I thought it was and it's
> only convention that has kept it free of posts...
> 

I don't really know what is being used for the list mailer, but spam has
been minor to date.  If it came from a legitimate user it may get
through no matter what.
I saw this in 3 different forms so far, and one was directly to my own
email address.

Nothing surprises me, and all that can be done is make the best effort
and use all available tools to combat the jerks who like to flood us
with spam.  Unfortunately most of the spam is coming from poor
unsuspecting lusers who don't have a clue their system is wide open and
under the control of someone else.






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