Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: Looking at the code affected in bug 9752 leaves a weird taste...

[Jon Bright]

Hi,

Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote:

> Hmm?  I'm curious, do you have anything you can direct me to, so I can
> see for myself?  It feels like such files should really be regarded as
> binary...

RFC822 strikes me as a good example :-)

> jon> b) some tools are broken and only work with one or the other line
> jon> ending (I believe there are several affected MS tools, and I
> jon> recall seeing problems with Borland Builder with CVS checking out
> jon> its project files using CR+LF because it was on Windows, but
> jon> Builder having written them with LF-only and expecting to get
> jon> them back in that format)
>
> Spank Borland.

I'd love to, and not just for that, but I suspect they'll ignore me :-)

> jon> c) you're checking out text files which have CR+LF conventions
> jon> (so that Windows Notepad doesn't screw them up) onto a website
> jon> hosted on a Linux box.
>
> Hmm?  Do I get it right, that if you serve files only using LF as line
> ending, and you then want to, say, look at the HTML source (and then,
> at least with IE, end up using Notepad as a viewer), it gets served to
> Notepad with LF line endings?

Hm - I think in that case not.  I think IE swaps in CRLF.  But if you 
were offering a text file for download (i.e. people do "save link as"), 
it just downloads it, afaik.

> *gnnnnnn*

This whole subject makes me go like that.  I'd love to just say "lines 
end with LF.  We read them with LFs, we write them with LFs, we compare 
them with LFs, anybody who wants a CR can jump under a bus".  Sadly, 
nobody has yet given me a shotgun to go round doing gene-pool-pruning on 
people who code CRLF-only tools :-)

> *sigh*

Exactly :-)

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Jon Bright
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