Re: Email Messages

[Bob Proulx]

Karl Berry wrote:
> SA really doesn't like those hosts. Even fixing the language thing
> (which should not be counted for these lists) would not be enough.

When I saw that the from address was yandex.com I really had to hold
myself back from saying something about it being a known problematic
spam source.  I satified myself in griping about Outlook and left it
at that only.

>       *  2.0 BAYES_80 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 80 to 95%
>       *      [score: 0.9441]

Language issue, right?  Because Bayes is getting auto-trained in a
positive feedback loop.  If the language issue were fixed then the
Bayes would be trained less-incorrectly, probably would not hit on the
message then.

>       *  2.5 RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST

A Windows host is sending email?  But I am not sure what this rule is
about.  I do not find it in my own system's spamassassin rules, and of
course can't look on the spamassassin rules on eggs.  But not sure
what this rule is about.  When I looked at the email you listed I
didn't see anything that looked like a 2.5 points worth bad thing in
the header.

>       *  2.8 UNWANTED_LANGUAGE_BODY BODY: Message written in an undesired
>       *      language

Language issue.

>       *  2.0 UNWANTED_LANGUAGE_FREEMAIL UNWANTED_LANGUAGE_FREEMAIL

Language issue.

However if the language issue were removed it would only be 2.5 points
for the odd sending host.

I didn't know there was a /spam directory that could be looked through
on lists.gnu.org.  That is good to learn about.

> There are messages from thefloss* in /spam/www-tr-comm/ on lists.
> 
> new/1578063618.H63295P30182.lists.gnu.org
> new/1578144767.H843592P19144.lists.gnu.org
> new/1578495149.H352630P8578.lists.gnu.org
> new/1578496242.H845011P1405.lists.gnu.org

Thank you for listing those.  I browsed them.

Ian, Can we get mutt installed on lists so that browsing messages like
this is easier?  Thanks.

> We could revive them by hand, but it seems pointless if further mail
> from them will be caught. I bet these are not the only msgs to
> non-English lists that get wrongly filtered there ...

Agreed.  I wouldn't revive them.

Bob