[lwip-users] RE: [lwip] LWIP Patches and CVS [contact with Adam]

[Troy \(Office PC\)]

We have found that a few of our competitors are using the stack and not
giving back to the community - and probally not using the copyright
properly either.  

So I am interested in working with the stack to know how it works and
use it as a platform to test against our commercial stacks.  I think it
is good!  But a better concentrated dev program could probally render a
really great performing stack (ie - more functional ports and add ons)
so I like to let all our engineers tinker and see if we could get to
that point and also add PORTS!!  

The freedom to explore as an engineer is one of the most valuable points
we make....explore learn and see how other people do stuff...helping and
working with this project can only make us stronger and smarter.  I have
monitored this project for several years now very good!!!  

We are doing some linux projects for customers also and I like the lwip
stack so maybe we could add some functionality to it?  But it is good
business to help anyone out no matter if it's for free - I think this
stack has some good potential!  More people should be aware of it.

Troy Melquist Founder
REDCELLX SOFTWARE
www.redcellx.com
408 SW 2nd ave
suite 412
Portland Oregon 97204 USA
503 295 9680

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Scott
Robinson
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:00 PM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [lwip] LWIP Patches and CVS [contact with Adam]

Sure, I'll send the tree over!

I haven't added the patches queued in my home directory (heh) because
I'm
away from the machine at the moment. You could as easily import the
current
tree.

I've noticed your company homepage. Are you guys dealing in commercial
TCP/IP stacks? What is the interest in lwip?

Not that it's a high bandwidth project or anything. ;-)

Scott.

* Troy (Office PC) translated into ASCII [Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at
01:02:00PM -0700][<address@hidden>]
> Send over the tree to address@hidden
> 
> We have a uro already for it.  The url will be nexgentcpip.com
> 
> I just bought this so we could have a nice front page interface.  We
are
> ready.
> 
> Troy Melquist Founder
> REDCELLX SOFTWARE
> www.redcellx.com
> 408 SW 2nd ave
> suite 412
> Portland Oregon 97204 USA
> 503 295 9680
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Rod
> Boyce
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:59 AM
> To: address@hidden
> Cc: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: [lwip] LWIP Patches and CVS [contact with Adam]
> 
> I would respectful ask that not everybody who produces a diff has CVS
> write access.  I think there needs to be some gating process as I do
not
> think all diffs are created equal.  
> 
> lwip and its baby brother are great I think there needs to be a gating
> process so caos does not end up bring king.
> 
> Perhaps there should only be a hand full of active people on this list
> that have CVS write access.  These people do not have to test every
> single patch just when there is agreement that a patch should be added
> to the head should it be added.
> 
> This is just my $0.02 cents worth.
> 
> Regards,
> Rod Boyce.
> 
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:57:53 -0700
> Scott Robinson <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > Well, then I guess SF and Savannah aren't accepting it. Florian
noted
> the
> > license may have already been changed, and the last nightly CVS I
> downloaded
> > seems to confirm that statement. Perhaps someone should ask again?
> > 
> > Anyway, I already volunteered server space. It's up to people here
if
> they
> > really want to use it.
> > 
> > I will open my anon CVS open later tonight with preliminary accounts
> for
> > anyone who offers what look like coherent patches. Just give me a
> yell!
> > Setting up a CVS patch mailing list is something else, though...
> > 
> > Troy, if your CTO ends up allowing you guys to set it up, I'll be
able
> to
> > send you a CVS tree (.tgz format) with a few of the patches in
mailing
> list
> > archives already applied.
> > 
> > Scott.
> > 
> > * Troy (Office PC) translated into ASCII [Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at
> 05:46:30PM -0700][<address@hidden>]
> > > Let me talk to our CTO about setting up something.  
> > > 
> > > Troy Melquist Founder
> > > REDCELLX SOFTWARE
> > > www.redcellx.com
> > > 408 SW 2nd ave
> > > suite 412
> > > Portland Oregon 97204 USA
> > > 503 295 9680
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of
> Leon
> > > Woestenberg
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:40 PM
> > > To: address@hidden
> > > Subject: Re: [lwip] LWIP Patches and CVS [contact with Adam]
> > > 
> > > Hello all,
> > > 
> > > a few weeks ago I have had contact with Adam about setting up a
> public
> > > CVS
> > > on http://savanah.nongnu.org (note the nongnu) or
> > > http://www.sourceforge.net/
> > > 
> > > Adam was enthousiastic about it, as he was currently involved in a
> new
> > > project
> > > at SICS. (Winternet", http://winternet.sics.se/). I can quote his
> > > response
> > > tomorrow
> > > when I am at my work place again.
> > > 
> > > Both Savannah and Sourceforge acceptation teams rejected lwIP
> because of
> > > the
> > > "original BSD" license.
> > > 
> > > After this, I have asked Adam if it was possible to blend to the
> > > "official
> > > modified BSD"
> > > license, but I have had no response on this. (This was 1 or 2
weeks
> > > ago).
> > > Probably,
> > > such things have to go through SICS lawyers "layer" anyway.
> > > 
> > > (In short, the original BSD license was modified by the director
of
> > > Berkeley
> > > University
> > > as statement #3 was ambigious in the sense of "contributors").
> > > 
> > > So, either the license be modified according to this, or someone
> should
> > > set
> > > up a CVS
> > > server on their _own server_ so that we can proceed with the
current
> > > license
> > > without
> > > legal trouble.
> > > 
> > > Can someone do this? It might be the most viable option.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Leon Woestenberg.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > If not, I am thinking about setting up a temporary public CVS
> which
> > > people
> > > > > can submit patches for/commit to... (Paul is one person who
> seems to
> > > know
> > > > > his stuff)
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm using lwIP in my main project right now, and until the
> project
> > > is
> > > > > converted over to SF.net, it would be nice to know that there
is
> at
> > > least
> > > > > one comprehensive source for updated/reduced bug code.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > i don't know if it is a good idea for my patches to go in
> directly,
> > > > since i don't use lwip via the lwip api, but from the low level
> api.
> > > > my patches are untested in this respect, so they should go
through
> > > > someone who is using lwip standalone, and using lwip with
threads
> etc.
> > > >
> > > > i am quite prepared to help maintain lwip if api/*.c stuff is
> > > > dropped, or at least someone can verify that it still works
> > > > after i apply patches
> > > >
> > > > perhaps go ahead and get the cvs up and cc the announcement to
> > > > adam. if he is not responding to mail, perhaps someone in europe
> > > > could just phone him to let him know we are stealing his
> > > > project  :-)
> > > >
> > > > in any case he will always have cvs write access of course
> > > >
> > > > -paul
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > 
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