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RE: Unconventional score and unwanted stray staff lines
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Mark Stephen Mrotek |
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RE: Unconventional score and unwanted stray staff lines |
Date: |
Sun, 19 May 2019 10:31:13 -0700 |
David,
My experience is transcribing 18th and 19th century piano scores.
I do get "run-off" staves.
This is usually the result of incorrect mensuration of a note or notes.
You piece still has some sort of vertical simultaneity.
Perhaps you could start with a temporary time signature, just to see if voices
align.
Then remove it for publication.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: David Bellows [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 10:46 PM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek <address@hidden>
Cc: lilypond-user <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: Unconventional score and unwanted stray staff lines
Hey Mark,
> Maybe use bar checks?
Given that a lot of the music isn't generated to fit any particular time
signature (ie, the bar lines are often there just to break things up to ease
reading), I would get tons of bar check errors. Plus, keeping track of when
bars should be inserted in my software seems like it would be a huge chore. Is
this something you think would solve the problem?
On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 10:25 PM Mark Stephen Mrotek <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> David
>
> Maybe use bar checks?
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lilypond-user
> [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf
> Of David Bellows
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 3:59 PM
> To: lilypond-user <address@hidden>
> Subject: Unconventional score and unwanted stray staff lines
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I tried to keep the examples minimal but I also needed to show the full
> extent of what is going on.
>
> Attached are two Lilypond files and pdfs showing an unconventional score.
> Each part has the same number of notes but since the durations are random,
> each part ends at its own time.
>
> badtest.ly and badtest.pdf show the default behavior. When a part ends, one
> of its staves continues on till the last part ends. I don't want this
> behavior.
>
> test.ly and test.pdf do a better job of showing what happens with the
> workaround hack of adding s128 at the end of each part. The problem with that
> -- and I didn't include examples -- is that if all the durations are the same
> and end at a natural bar line, an extra empty measure is added at the end of
> each part. I can't check for this occurrence ahead of time in my own software
> as it would be insane to keep track of all of that.
>
> You'll notice a lot of context commands all of which I think are necessary to
> get everything else to look as it should.
>
> So I'm hoping someone has an idea about what's going on here and how
> to prevent those extra staves like in test.pdf
>
> Also, these Lilypond files are generated automatically by another program
> I've created so the layout of the Lilypond file can't really be changed
> without a massive amount of work. Hopefully a solution won't require
> something like that.
>
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