Re: separating design from pure score

[Urs Liska]

Hi Stjepan,

sorry that I don't have the time to really go through this thread (so I 
might misunderstand sth).

But I think you should separate your music variables from your score 
definition, so you can \include them separately:

music.ly
myMusic = { ... }

score.ly
\score {
    \new Staff <<
      \myMusic
      \myMarks
>>
}


Then you can have your master file like:

\include "music.ly"
myMarks = { ... }
\include "score.ly"

Does that help?

Best
Urs

Am 15.03.2012 11:23, schrieb Stjepan Horvat:
> Hello all..thank you for you anwsers..i really appreciate it..It's not
> exactly what i wanted..but it helps me figure out more what i want and
> what will be my solution..!
>
> David Kastrup leads in this direction what i'm trying ta achive..The
> diference form Hans Aikema is that i want to include music in a
> diffrent file which i compile afterwords..The reason for that is that
> i want to define music as is..Becouse each song is uniq and
> unchangable..So i dont ever have to change the music file.
>
> For Example:
> 1. I want the score to be minimalistic and to be sufficient in itself.
>
> ===== score.ly =====
> \verison "2.14.2"
> \header { title = "TITLE" composer = "COMPOSER" }
> mymusic = \relative c' { c4 d e f \mark \default g }
> mylyrics = \lyricmode { c d e f g }
> mychords = \chordmode { c1 c4 }
> \score {
> <<
> \new ChordNames { \mychords }
> \new Staff { \mymusic }
> \addlyrics { \mylyrics }
> }
> ==== end of score.ly ====
>
> Minimalistic as i said. Maybe even without \mark \default.
>
> So now in design.ly i would set the fonts and paper and whatever would
> be static in project period. I think the layout should work here.
>
> And on the end.
>
> ==== master.ly ====
> \include "./desing.ly"
> \include "./score.ly"
>
> %now here should go the paddings for this specifig song couse every
> song looks difrent and has diffrent bar numbers..Now i would want to
> maybe use \break command but inside the score..So here comes my
> problem. Becouse the score block is included while including score.ly
> (i would want only the variable to be included) i can't make a mark
> blok where i would define simple marks and bar brakes.
>
> paper {
> markup-system-spacing #'padding = #5
> markup-system-spacing #'stretchability = #5
> score-system-spacing #'padding = #5
> last-bottom-spacing #'padding = #5
> score-markup-spacing #'padding = #5
> top-system-spacing #'padding = #17.5
> }
>
> marks = {
>    \set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-barnumbers
>    \hideNotes
>    R1 \break
>    \bar "||"
>    \mark \default
>    \unHideNotes
>    \bar "|."
> }
>
> \score {
> <<
> \new ChordNames { \mychords }
> \new Staff {<<  \mymusic \marks>>}
> \addlyrics { \mylyrics }
> }
>
> ==== end of master.ly ====
>
> I would only compile the maste.ly file..
>
> I think i made myself clear..:) Thanks for further guidence.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Hans Aikema<address@hidden>  wrote:
> > On 14-3-2012 19:16, Stjepan Horvat wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I'm working on a project and i want to separate the design from score
> > > because i want to have a clear score so that in the future when i
> > > maybe want to change the design i dont have to change the score
> > > (something like html and CSS :) ). So when i include my score into my
> > > design file variables are included but score block also. Now when i
> > > what to change, for example, \mark \default to have a preety box i
> > > dont know where to put it. Is there a way not to include a score block
> > > but all variables, or insert stuff into a score block that is
> > > invisible to me?
> > If I understand your request correctly you're looking for a similar
> > structure as what I'm working with for generating beamerslides of songs
> > including their music. In that case the \include command is your friend.
> >
> > What I have in my projects:
> >
> > format/BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly
> > contains
> > - a \paper section containing lots of formatting settings
> > - a \layout setting containing lots of formatting settings
> > - an include for yet another lilypond file containing useful scheme
> > functions such as the override-color-for-allgrobs scheme funtion I found in
> > the LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=443
> > - variable definitions for a music staff (muziekbalk) and its associated
> > lyrics (verstekst):
> > muziekbalk = { \new Staff \new Voice = myMelody { \melodie } }
> > verstekst = {\new Lyrics \lyricsto "myMelody" { \tekst }}
> >
> > format/BeamerRegular.ly
> > contains
> > - an include of format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly
> > - a Score block combining the variables defined in BaseBeamerSlideDesign
> > into an actual Score and override of the grob-colors to get colored output:
> > === format/BeamerRegular.ly sample ===
> > \include "BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly"
> >
> > \score {
> > <<
> >             \applyContext #(override-color-for-all-grobs white)
> >             \muziekbalk
> >             \verstekst
> > }
> > === end of format/BeamerRegular.ly ===
> >
> > Then any song requiring the beamer slide format:
> > - a \header block
> > - a variable definition called 'melodie' (which is refered to in the
> > format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly mentioned above) containing the melody of
> > the song
> > - a variable definition called 'tekst' which is refered to in the
> > format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly mentioned above) containing the lyrics of
> > the song
> > - an include of the format/BeamerRegular.ly
> >
> > e.g.:
> > === MySong.ly sample ===
> > \version "2.15.26"
> > \header {
> >     title = "Just some sample song"
> > }
> > melodie = \relative c'' {
> >     \clef treble
> >     \time 4/4
> >     \key c \major
> >     c d e f \bar "|."
> > }
> > tekst = \lyricmode {
> >   this is a song
> > }
> > \include format/BeamerGewoon.ly
> > === end of MySong.ly sample ===
> >
> > The reason for the BeamerRegular.ly is that I also have separate files for
> > BeamerNoBars, BeamerNoTimeSignature, BeamerNoTimeSignatureNoBars for
> > different score-tweaks on different songs.
> > All basic formatting is done in BaseBeamerslideDesign, the tweaks for
> > outputting different score types for different subsets of my songs are in
> > these additional lilypond format/*.ly files. The songs than include the
> > appropriate 'tweaked' design from the format folder.
> > Any design change (e.g. font-size, fonts to use, paper-sizing) I can do on
> > BaseBeamerslideDesign and then I can just regenerate all the songs of my
> > library to get updated sheet-music using the new layout.
> >
> > This 'layering' of definitions can be extended as much as one wants of
> > course, such as for different score setups (I only have need for a
> > single-voice score with accompanying lyrics), someone else might find a need
> > to define eg a set of SATB choral score designs including the baseDesign for
> > the basic layout settings.
> >
> > Which might lead to for example:
> > - baseDesign.ly (font setup, paper setup, staff-sizing setup)
> > - SATBScoreBase.ly (variable setup for the 4 voices and accompanying lyrics)
> > - SATBScore-S-A-T-B-SLyrics.ly including the SATBScoreBase and containing a
> > score-block with each voice on its own staff and only lyrics accompanying
> > the Soprano voice
> > - SATBScore-SA-TB-STLyrics.ly including the SATBScoreBase and containg a
> > score-block with the voices two-by-two on staffs and lyrics accompanying the
> > Soprano and Tenor voices
> > - SATBScore-S-A-T-B-LyricsAll.ly including the SATBScoreBase and containing
> > a score-block with each voice on its own staff and lyrics accompanying each
> > of the voices
> >
> > regards,
> > Hans Aikema
> >
> >
> >
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