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Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator
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David Kastrup |
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Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator |
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Sat, 13 Nov 2021 21:08:59 +0100 |
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Carl Sorensen <c_sorensen@byu.edu> writes:
> I have not been a strong contributor to this thread. And I have not
> been a strong advocate for the time signatures with a notehead in the
> denominator. I think all of those time signatures can be expressed
> just as well as a compound meter.
>
> HOWEVER,
>
> In looking at this, is seems the lexer (and the propery
> timeSignatureFraction) are not semantically correct.
>
> Although the time signature looks like a fraction, it is not. A
> fraction has numbers in the denominator and the numerator (and
> strictly speaking, a fraction properly has integers in the numerator
> and denominator -- if they are not integers, it's a quotient, not a
> fraction, IIUC). And the time signature has an integer in the
> "numerator" and a duration in the "denominator".
I don't get your point. Are you objecting to the use of the word
"fraction" or what is your complaint? The representation is a pair of
integers, not a rational number, so \time 4/4 and \time 2/2 are
different things.
> I'm not sure it is worth the work to get semantically correct, but
> semantically, \time 4/4 should not be a fraction of two integers; it
> should be a pair of a count and a duration.
>
> And if we had semantically correct time signature entry,
Here you are talking about the _entry_ rather than the names used
internally. So what is your beef with the _entry_?
> Kieren's wish for a different display for the duration would be
> relatively straightforward,
Here you make a statement that somehow your objection to entry or
internal namings, once recognised, magically makes other possibilities
appear. I don't see it.
> Anyway, like I said earlier, I'm not sure that it's worth changing the
> internals since they work so well for the lilypond core functionality
> (traditional western music), but I noticed the semantic error as I
> read this thread.
What do you want to change? Entry or internals? And how so?
--
David Kastrup
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, (continued)
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Lukas-Fabian Moser, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Lukas-Fabian Moser, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Aaron Hill, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Aaron Hill, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, David Kastrup, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, David Kastrup, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Carl Sorensen, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Carl Sorensen, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Lukas-Fabian Moser, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, David Kastrup, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, David Kastrup, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/13
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/13