Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)

[Paolo Prete]

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:35 AM Valentin Villenave <valentin@villenave.net>
wrote:

> On 6/25/20, Paolo Prete <paolopr976@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The lack of a cautionary pedal on a bracket could be seen as an
> enhancement
> > only in a self-referential context, which doesn't make sense to me. A
> > proper way to proceed is to check what modern professional engravers do
> > with it, and check as a consequence if Lilypond is coherent with them (->
> > common practice)
>
> Greetings Paolo,
> determining whether this issue is a “Defect” or an “Enhancement” is
> largely inconsequential; as Jean said (and we should be thankful to
> him for opening a tracker page on your behalf, by the way), that does
> not imply a different priority.
>
> That being said, can you please document your claims? As a pianist
> myself (and although I did specialize in contemporary music), I can’t
> remember _any_ score where I’ve seen a pedal reminder after a system
> break, off the top of my head. But that’s just me.
>
>

Hi Valentine,

as I said before, I can't document my claim, of course. Therefore I asked
for feedback.
I said to Kieren that "I am not aware of [professional] scores that do not
use it" (a bracket without a cautionary string), then I asked for examples,
which would be useful for me.
And then I added, in another post (I quote myself):

"I would ask, instead: "how many scores published by professional engravers
do use a pedal bracket with a cautionary text? "
AFAIK, 100%, not 1%.
But this is what I know, and I could be wrong. Then I asked
for counterexamples (to Kieren, in the previous post).
If I'm right, then the pedal brackets are pretty unusable, at the moment,
without a hack.
If I'm wrong, I agree there should not be any sense of urgency, as you
wrote."

Here is what I also wrote:

"A proper way to proceed is to check what modern professional engravers do
with it, and check as a consequence if Lilypond is coherent with them (->
common practice) "

That's all. The pedal bracket is a relatively recent practice. I'm
convinced that not writing a cautionary string would be a really bad
practice in *any* professional score, for many reasons, for any spanner.
But the fact that I consider it a bad practice (and I add: a really bad
one) has nothing to do with the urgency of fixing the issue. This urgency
can be evaluated with a sort of average on the modern scores.

Hope this clarifies.

Best,

P




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