Re: Gnus and new mail notification

[Thierry Volpiatto]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@users.sf.net> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 00:19:42 +0100, Richard Riley wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> As soon as you use splitting or virtual groups, an external process
>>>>>>>>>> becomes useless (for instance, I have several rules that split 
>>>>>>>>>> messages
>>>>>>>>>> into groups that I ignore).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not if you dont use the demon and then split when you hit g. In other
>>>>>>>>> words you only fetch your mail when gnubiff or something similar tells
>>>>>>>>> you that you have new mail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Concrete example: if splitting includes spam rules, gnubiff will notify
>>>>>>>> you of spam too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes that is most certainly true. Since I use googlemail I'm kind of
>>>>>>> spoiled as their spam filtering server side is pretty good these days
>>>>>>> (that and my spam-split set up doesnt work anymore on NoGnus) and so I
>>>>>>> turned off client side "spam-split"ting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you use gmail, you can have easy mail notification with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://mail.google.com/mail/feed/atom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It give you an xml buffer you have to parse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A library exists on emacswiki for this, don't remember the name, it
>>>>>> didn't work for me so i wrote small code for this for my personal use, i
>>>>>> can send it if interested.
>>>>>> Of course if one use gnus-demon, it's non--sense to use this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just as an FYI to the OP if new to Gnus, I have found the best set up
>>>>> for me with Gnus is dovecot locally fed by offlineimap which is run as a
>>>>> cron job every half hour or so.
>>>> I use here offlineimap.el that is started each time i start gnus.
>>>> http://julien.danjou.info/offlineimap-el.html
>>>> I think that coupled with a gmail notification is better than a
>>>> cronjob.
>>>
>>> I dont think it is since the benefit of my way is I dont need gnus
>>> running to see email notifications.
>> Me too ;-) See above
>>
>> Gnus is stopped.
>>
>> 1) I call async https://mail.google.com/mail/feed/atom every five
>> minutes.
>>
>> 2) When i am notified of a new email, i run Gnus who run offlineimap.
>
> Typo : sacrilege I know, but I mean emacs ;)
?

> I might try your way just as an academic exercise at one stage.
>
> You still need to manually run offlineimap in emacs though
No:
(add-hook 'gnus-before-startup-hook 'offlineimap)
 
> whereas mine
> just happens and I get informed as and when offlineimap has done its job
> so I can see the mail instantly!
Instantly every time your cron job have run.
My mail notification system watch directly the gmail server, it doesn't
depend of what offlineimap fetch.


> I use Mail Notification 5.4 to then
> preview whether to bother firing up gnus and fetching (instantly) from
> my local dovecot. My offlineimap config handles multiple accounts too.

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