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Re: [help-texinfo] Want curly braces around key sequences (Was: Overfull

From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: [help-texinfo] Want curly braces around key sequences (Was: Overfull vbox in Concept Index leads to a blank page in the middle of the index)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 17:35:10 +0300

> From: Robert Weiner <address@hidden>
> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 17:21:58 -0400
> Cc: Gavin Smith <address@hidden>, address@hidden
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> wrote:
> > the result [of using braces around key sequences in Info manuals) will 
> > confuse the reader
> This is an assumption you are making that has not been borne out by the 
> experience of users of these manuals
> throughout the years.

Does my experience of 30 years of reading Info manuals count?  We can
ask RMS to provide a second opinion.

> Prior to this discussion here, we have never heard from a single user about 
> any problems with this notation

That can be explained in several ways that have nothing to do with the

> As you have said before regarding Emacs features, since it has been working a 
> certain way for years (with
> my packages), until a better, more consistent techinque is proposed, I will 
> stay with this and let the users say
> whether it is an issue or not. And again, maybe you will look at it and try 
> it out before dismissing it.

My point is that if this is a better method, the entire Texinfo system
should switch to it, rather than doing this in the manuals of a single

> 1. The display is consistent across .pdf, .html and .info outputs. The same 
> markup can be used within any
> standard text as well (similar to what markdown does and we know how popular 
> that is).

Texinfo explicitly doesn't attempt to do this, since the capabilities
of the various output formats are so different.

> 2. Hyperbole recognizes global key sequences surrounded by braces and can 
> activate their key bindings
> when selected with the mouse (or via a keyboard key). This is great for demos 
> or for frequently accessed long
> sequences that may be hard to remember.

Any reasons Hyperbole couldn't be taught to recognize any other
format, including the standard Texinfo one?  If not, does that mean
Hyperbole doesn't support key sequences documented by other GNU

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