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Re: help-gnu-emacs Digest, Vol 198, Issue 87


From: Budi
Subject: Re: help-gnu-emacs Digest, Vol 198, Issue 87
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 05:55:46 +0700

How to change/set default height/size help window below mode line to
other than default which is half of full emacs window when the help is
invoked ?

On 5/25/19, help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org
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>    1. Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces (Van L)
>    2. input to interactive M: key from text at point (was:
>       help-gnu-emacs  Digest, Vol 198, Issue 83) (Van L)
>    3. Re: Is Elisp really that slow? (Robert Thorpe)
>    4. Re: the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail
>       mailing list bounces) (tomas@tuxteam.de)
>    5. Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces (tomas@tuxteam.de)
>    6. Re: the future of the computer world (Stefan Monnier)
>    7. Re: Newbie with Gnus and posteo email setup (Tomas Nordin)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 19:17:48 +1000
> From: Van L <van@scratch.space>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces
> Message-ID: <m27eaeriyr.fsf@scratch.space>
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> <tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
>
>>> > Since they can't kill it directly, they
>>> > starve it. Spam (and the corresponding
>>> > anti-spam measures) are their allies in that.
>>>
>>> Tin foil hats on everyone :)
>>
>> Sometimes they are justified. Remember: just because
>> you're paranoid it doesn't mean that they aren't after
>> you :)
>
> The term of art is to jump the shark when it suddenly inevitably must
> appear.
>
> --
> ? 2019 Van L
> gpg using EEF2 37E9 3840 0D5D 9183  251E 9830 384E 9683 B835
>           "I don't believe any anything that the media say." - Ali
> Abdelaziz
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 19:46:18 +1000
> From: Van L <van@scratch.space>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: input to interactive M: key from text at point (was:
>       help-gnu-emacs  Digest, Vol 198, Issue 83)
> Message-ID: <m236l2rhn9.fsf_-_@scratch.space>
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> Budi <budikusasi@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> How to hook string/word at point to be as input interactive M-: key,
>> i.e. prompting Eval: on minibuffer ?
>
> Guessing that you have text you want to evaluate as elisp, try the
> following.
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> C-h f eval-region
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>
> What I do is select a region of elisp text and M-x eval-region.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> --
> ? 2019 Van L
> gpg using EEF2 37E9 3840 0D5D 9183  251E 9830 384E 9683 B835
>           "I don't believe any anything that the media say." - Ali
> Abdelaziz
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 11:54:04 +0100
> From: Robert Thorpe <rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com>
> To: Stefan Huchler <stefan.huchler@mail.de>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow?
> Message-ID: <874l5ipzxv.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com>
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> Stefan Huchler <stefan.huchler@mail.de> writes:
>>
>> Does that make sense?
>
> I think it does.  So, there will be no timeout.  Instead Ctrl is sticky
> until the next key is pressed, but not after that.  I could see that
> working.
>
> BR,
> Robert Thorpe
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 13:54:53 +0200
> From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail
>       mailing list bounces)
> Message-ID: <20190525115453.GB12528@tuxteam.de>
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>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 10:03:03AM +0200, Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs
> wrote:
>> tomas wrote:
>>
>> >> ?#2: What do you mean "all the anti-patterns
>> >> of the pre-Internet age emerge all over
>> >> again." It sounds interesting anyway so do
>> >> tell...
>> >
>> > You had a fragmented landscape of "online
>> > services" [...]
>
>> Oh, no! That can't happen! I remember years ago
>> writing many times about the future all
>> interface-independent use of computer services.
>> Everyone could use everything, with their own
>> client(s) [...]
>
> Facebook bought whatsapp for $16 billion (that is 16 * 10^9 dollars).
> How do you think they are going to monetize it? By letting their users
> change providers painlessly?
>
> Likewise they bought instagram for $1 billion. They are /betting their
> farm/ on closed platforms. What do you think their shareholders think
> about e-mail?
>
> There's a huge financial incentive in poisoning the well (aka "open
> platforms") to sell bottled water.
>
> Cheers
> -- tom?s
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 13:56:00 +0200
> From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
> To: Van L <van@scratch.space>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces
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> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 07:17:48PM +1000, Van L wrote:
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> [...]
>
>> >> Tin foil hats on everyone :)
>> >
>> > Sometimes they are justified [...]
>>
>> The term of art is to jump the shark when it suddenly inevitably must
>> appear.
>
>   <;-)
>
> Cheers
> -- t
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 11:18:52 -0400
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: the future of the computer world
> Message-ID: <jwvef4mtven.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
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>> You're saying this is not only incorrect, but the _opposite_
>> is happening?
>
> No he's just saying that this future has come and gone already.
>
>
>         Stefan
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 17:31:23 +0200
> From: Tomas Nordin <tomasn@posteo.net>
> To: oury.dustin@posteo.net
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie with Gnus and posteo email setup
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> oury.dustin@posteo.net writes:
>
>> I got it figured out a few days ago. But for now I may have to go slow
>> and learn how to configure gnus while using the webmail interface as I
>> go.
>>
>> Doing (setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "posteo.de")) was the answer I
>> needed! Everything else can probably be learned by RTFM
>
> Alright! Good luck with the Gnus stuff, it seems to be THE thing for
> some people.
>
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