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Re: pirate bay, w3m, and the interface is just an interface (BEST post ever)
Tue, 24 Mar 2015 13:52:03 GMT
Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2)
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:08:03 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>> Look, you quite clearly are, which is quite offensive for those of us
>> who believe that all people should be afforded equal rights under the
>> law, including that tiny minority who strive to improve the world
>> through the creation of art. It's not up to you to decide that this
>> minority does not deserve the right to the work to which they give
>> their lives.
I have a big problem with the language of this paragraph.
First of all, there are just and unjust laws. Current copyright law is
pretty far from just in almost any country with trade agreements with the
The copyright law spreading out from the United States is far from
optimized to protect the rights of creative types. In fact the losses
which creators suffer due to the beneficiaries of copyright law is far
greater than the losses they suffer due to the violators of copyright law.
Copyright law is an infringement of free speech rights. When the
founders of the American constitution decided to allow copyright and
patent law, they did so with great reservation. Thomas Jefferson
expressed these reservations quite elegantly. There was spirited debate
about the merits of encouraging creativity and research through copyright
and patent law, and the cost to society through the impingement of the
fundamental freedom of free-speech.
Over the subsequent 2XX years that followed, copyright holders gained
more and more wealth, and Americas legal system grew more and more into a
cash-for-laws system. The carefully crafted compromise that the founders
created, which balanced the goals of rewarding creative endeavors against
the public good has eroded into a system where copyright terms exceed
over 90 years, where copyrights have been retroactively stolen from the
public domain and granted to large copyright oligarchies, and where fair
use has eroded to the point of non-existence. Worse, the media
oligarchies are capable of disseminating propaganda so ubiquitous and
nefarious that Goebbels would have felt like an amateur to behold.
Before getting offended at viewpoint that are more nuanced than yours,
you should really inform yourself better. Some good places to start are:
1. Free culture by Professor Lawrence Lessig.
2. Any talk on the subject by Cory Doctorow.
3. "The Internet's Own Boy", a documentary about Aaron Schwartz.
"Free Culture" is one of my favorite books on the subject, and is an
excellent starting point, as it does a great job of synthesizing the
negative impact of today's out-of-control copyright law on society, the
economy, and especially creativity and the artists who want to exercise
If one starts from a position of ignorance, and accepts the propaganda
that copyright-law is somehow an embodyment of a natural right, as
opposed to an a restriction on a natural right, and accepts the fallacy
that copyright benefits artists and creators, as opposed to the truth
that copyright (as currently practiced) benefits copyright *holders*,
it's easy to get sucked into the fallacy that copyright-violation is thef,
and get judgmental and offend.
If one is informed about the history and facts of the economics of
copyright law, it's much easier to understand how some might consider
copyright-violation to be an act of civil disobedience.
You may not find it such an act of civil disobedience justified, but I
find that high-horses on this subject have been bred from ignorance.
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