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Re: Chinese characters support

From: Charles Muller
Subject: Re: Chinese characters support
Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 12:36:28 +0900 (JST)

Kai wrote:

> Maybe HELLO does not do what you need, but that doesn't make it
> useless in general, IMVHO.

I never said it was useless in general, and have never
suggested that the HELLO file should be relegated to oblivion. 

One more time:

Since the HELLO file is used for internal testing by Emacs coders it almost
always works correctly in any recent Emacs "out of the box." 

The common misunderstanding occurs when people who are trying to get
CJK working in utf-8 write to this, or another list for help, and list
members, in the spirit of trying to be helpful, suggest that all is fine if
the HELLO file displays right. 

But since the HELLO file is encoded in iso-2022 (not utf-7, as I originally
stated) it is the case, in my fairly extensive experience with the matter,
that the HELLO file will almost invariably display fine, while the original
problem (usually Mule-related) remains untouched upon.

Since the people who usually make the suggestion to test via the HELLO are
those who do not regularly use CJK, it seems that they are not aware of this
discrepancy, and I wanted to point this out. 

It seems strange to see people react so emotionally to the exposure
of this simple point. No one is asking that the hallowed HELLO file be sent
to oblivion--although a reincarnation as utf-8 would certainly not hurt! :-)


Charles Muller  <address@hidden>
Faculty of Humanities,  Toyo Gakuen University
Digital Dictionary of Buddhism and CJKV-English Dictionary 
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