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Re: printf '%s\n' "$@" versus <<< redirection


From: Kerin Millar
Subject: Re: printf '%s\n' "$@" versus <<< redirection
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:34:16 +0000

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 17:32:43 +0000
goncholden <goncholden@protonmail.com> wrote:

> ------- Original Message -------
> On Monday, February 20th, 2023 at 4:32 AM, Kerin Millar <kfm@plushkava.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 16:25:13 +0000
> > goncholden goncholden@protonmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > > ------- Original Message -------
> > > On Sunday, February 19th, 2023 at 3:17 AM, Greg Wooledge 
> > > greg@wooledge.org wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 10:46:08AM +0000, goncholden wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > My intention is to use prinf line by line on arguments containing 
> > > > > newlines. With a newline also introduced between arguments $1 $2 $3 
> > > > > etc.
> > > > 
> > > > This is quite unique. I don't believe I've ever seen someone try to
> > > > write a command where each argument is a group of lines, and all of
> > > > the groups of lines are supposed to be concatenated together to form
> > > > one bigger group of lines.
> > > > 
> > > > For this goal, printf '%s\n' "$@" seems to be the correct choice.
> > > > 
> > > > The <<< "$@" construct is nonsensical. Whatever it does (which is
> > > > pretty hard to predict, since it doesn't have a real definition), it
> > > > will not serve your goal.
> > > > 
> > > > If you want to avoid a pipeline which would cause your processing loop
> > > > to run in a subshell, then your syntax of choice would be:
> > > > 
> > > > while read ...
> > > > do
> > > > ...
> > > > done < <(printf '%s\n' "$@")
> > > 
> > > I have found that nested loops are most clear Consequently, I have either 
> > > this one
> > > 
> > > Code:
> > > 
> > > # Loop over arguments
> > > for arg in "$@"; do
> > > # Loop over lines
> > > printf '%s\n' "$arg" |
> > > while IFS= read -r vl ; do
> > > ...
> > > done
> > > done
> > > 
> > > or this
> > > 
> > > Code:
> > > 
> > > # Loop over arguments
> > > for arg in "$@"; do
> > > # Loop over lines
> > > while IFS= read -r vl ; do
> > > ...
> > > done < <(printf '%s\n' "$arg")
> > > done
> > 
> > 
> > The use of a process substitution - as in your second example - is typical 
> > in bash because, by having the while command be run in the initial shell, 
> > it's immune to the issue of 'disappearing' variables. See 
> > https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/024 for further details. Whether that 
> > truly matters in your case depends on what "..." is exactly.
> > 
> > --
> > Kerin Millar
> 
> One purpose is to pass documentation information with colour designators for 
> consecutive lines.

If it's only a matter of printing things to the standard output or standard 
error, it won't matter which way you do it. Still, if in any doubt at all, use 
a process substitution so that (in this case) printf is guaranteed to be the 
only thing being run in a subshell.

-- 
Kerin Millar



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