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Re: Fw: [Groff] [groff/patch] transparent gzip

From: Mark Veltzer
Subject: Re: Fw: [Groff] [groff/patch] transparent gzip
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 16:24:41 +0300

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On Sunday 25 August 2002 15:55, you wrote:
> On Sunday, August 25, 2002 7:35 AM,
> Mark Veltzer <address@hidden> wrote referring to the unbearable
> subtleness
> of being:
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> > On Sunday 25 August 2002 15:03, you wrote:
> >
> > It may sound harsh to you but I really don't care that much for
> > commercial UNIX vendors.
> Mark,
> you are preaching to the choir. Yet, commercial hardware and operating
> systems have their time and place. I am trying to be objective here. :)

I'm objective also...:) I didn't suggest doing something to sabotage 
commercial companies UNICES. I'm just saying that the fact that they will 
have a slightly bumpier road should not be made into a major consideration 
for us... (I do think that it's a minor consideration but I think the basic 
technical considerations of whether the idea is good or not should override 

> And what about groff's CPU times? troff has always been a hard CPU hitter.

        bring_zip_file+unzip < bring_unzipped_file

        being_zip_file+unzip+groff < bring_unzipped_file+groff

Which is true. This is what I actually tested.

> >> In this hysteric times, when hard-drives are one US dollar per
> >> gigabyte, 80 GB hard-drives are the norm and CPUs with hardware
> >> clocks slower than 1.3 Gigahertz are obsolete, talking about the
> >> supposed need to compress man pages seems pointless to me.
> >
> > Again, this is not about disk size at all... It's about speed (and if
> > do get the speed benefit - then why waste the disk space...? You get
> > both ends of the stick...).
> If you really want speed and have the disk space, short-circuit the
> typesetting step storing all manual pages as typeset output.

They are doing that already. catman. But they are doing it just for manual 
pages requested not for all manual pages under the assumption that only a 
minority of the manual pages will be requested and those who will have a 
higher probability of being used again. So every time you do "man foo" foo is 
generated in terminal typeset format.

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