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Re: GNU "Moral Codes"
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mike3 |
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Re: GNU "Moral Codes" |
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Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:20:10 -0700 |
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On Aug 21, 4:08 pm, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote:
> mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> writes:
> > It seems the GNU licenses are designed so you can't just monopolize
> > off someone else's work -- rip it off and pilfer it for your profit,
> > which is what incorporating it into a proprietary package without
> > making that free would do.
>
> Wrong. I'd say you have been reading too many of Linus Torvalds'
> rants: that is his opinion as well.
>
Haven't read a single one.
> The GPL is not a "tit for tat" license: the upstream author gets
> nothing from the recipient by defaul, nor does he have any right to.
> But any further downstream recipients get all the rights the GPL
> guarantees. The GPL ensures that no recipient gets crippled software,
> software which can't be serviced. It is the software engineering
> equivalent of placing good schematics inside of any sold appliance.
>
> So the GPL is "tat for tat" rather than "tit for tat": it is not
> reciprocal but seminal.
>
Oh, so you can go and profit off of the other person's work,
_provided_
that it stays free and GPL. I was meaning trying to make it
proprietary.
And was agreeing that that was an obvious no-no.
> > This may be good, but what is the GNU position on monopolizing or
> > reaping a profit off licensing your OWN work?
>
> You have to distinguish here between the stance of the GNU project in
> general, the subset of the effects and goals that the GPL codifies,
> and the FSF's and Richard Stallman's personal convictions, and those
> have changed over time as well.
>
What is the stance of those on this issue, anyway?
> I recommend that you read the GNU manifesto. It should tell you
> something.
>
Hmm. I noticed this on the GNU Manifesto page:
"In the long run, making programs free is a step toward the post-
scarcity world, where nobody will have to work very hard just to make
a living. People will be free to devote themselves to activities that
are fun, such as programming, after spending the necessary ten hours a
week on required tasks such as legislation, family counseling, robot
repair and asteroid prospecting. There will be no need to be able to
make a living from programming."
But would there be other businesses in such a world that would have
such as low a starting capital as programming? See that's what it
comes down to. Or would in that world, high starting capital not be
a problem since everyone would have enough money for it?
> --
> David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
- Re: GNU "Moral Codes", (continued)
- Re: GNU "Moral Codes", David Kastrup, 2007/08/25
- Re: GNU "Moral Codes", mike3, 2007/08/25
- Re: GNU "Moral Codes", mike3, 2007/08/25
- Re: GNU "Moral Codes", John Hasler, 2007/08/25
- Re: GNU "Moral Codes", mike3, 2007/08/25
- Re: GNU "Moral Codes", John Hasler, 2007/08/26
- Re: GNU "Moral Codes", mike3, 2007/08/26
Re: GNU "Moral Codes", John Hasler, 2007/08/20
Re: GNU "Moral Codes", David Kastrup, 2007/08/21
- Re: GNU "Moral Codes",
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- Re: GNU "Moral Codes", mike3, 2007/08/25
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- Re: GNU "Moral Codes", Alfred M. Szmidt, 2007/08/26
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