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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Guix and FSDG


From: Jean Louis
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Guix and FSDG
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 00:31:45 +0100
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* bill-auger <bill-auger@peers.community> [2019-11-27 22:59]:
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:05:50 +0100 Jean wrote:
> > For users, users should not need to run liberation scripts when
> > getting distribution. They shall get the full free software
> > without the process of liberation.
> 
> that is already true for every FSDG distro currently - no one
> "needs" to run the liberation scripts in order to get a complete
> system made of entirely free software - generally, the build
> scripts are published for the curious and ambitious

Is that really so? I do hope it is. But I am not sure that it is so. 

> On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:05:50 +0100 Jean wrote:
> > It is
> > system of preparing software on the computer, but is not
> > distribution.
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:05:50 +0100 Jean wrote:
> > Distribution should have capacity to be duplicated
> 
> that is a rather narrow categorization of a distribution -

Sounds like you take it out of the context. I never said that is the
only characteristic of distribution. I am saying, make the final
product for the user. Don't let users download non-free software to
make free software out of it.

> specifically that is describing a "binary distribution" -
> there are also "source-based distributions", in which the

Both can be duplicated, so I don't see what you are pointing out. GNU
was distributed as source distribution long ago before Linux kernel
came. It is so that it can be shared. And when it is shared users are
getting free software.

If I, as user, get the liberating scripts that drives me to download
some non-free software and then convert it to free scripts, this
drives me to non-free software clearly. It gives me chance to have it
on my mediums, and even the chance to share non-free software. Thus
such scripts shall be executed and run before putting software for
distribution on any medium for sharing with others. Is it binary or
source, it does not matter.

For liberating scripts, in my first email I already said that such
could/should be packaged in the distribution for anybody to be able to
prepare the distribution, I have never mentioned any elites or any
those other things, neither ever vouch in my life for non-free
software. But you may discuss something that was not even
mentioned.

Actually, who said ever that liberating scripts shall be non-free
software on this list? It was not me for sure, I said they shall be
packaged, which means become package in distribution.



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