Re: [Fle3-dev] Create new knowledge type set: Software Lifecycle

[Cormac McClean]

Hi Teemu,

Apologies for the delay in replying. My teaching week is front-loaded
with classes, so it's only today (Wednesday) that I get a chance to
catch up with email.

> Did you use any "can be followed with" -rules? I am afraid that 10 is a
> lot to remember for students and with the rules you could reduce the
> number of types available in each state.
Yes, e.g. Idea can be followed by Idea, Requirements, Feedback,
Question, Answer;
Requirements can be followed by Requirements, Design, Testing,
Feedback, Question, Answer, and so on.

> Isn't the waterfall model also rather restrictive? In that sense some
> kind of rules could make a lot of sense in here.
That's how I planned it, yes.

> BTE: When using this typeset with programmer student, I would use the
> "progressive inquiry" typeset to generate discussion on the good and bad
> sides of the waterfall model. Just a thought.
Good idea, thanks.

> Is anyone interested in to create typeset for "extreme programming"
> (http://www.extremeprogramming.org/)? At least the user stories,
> elaboration and review of them,  release planning
> (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PlanningGame) etc. could be ran and this way
> teacher with help of knowledge building.
Yes, my students and I are investigating the various software
development models, including Extreme Programming as a variant of the
Incremental Model. After the Incremental Model Knowledge Type set I'd
like to create an Extreme Programming KTS.

> I think with this you should consider the possibility to create one more
> way to browse and organize the notes of the knowledge building. Check
> out these notes in the dev list:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/fle3-dev/2004-11/msg00015.html
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/fle3-dev/2003-01/msg00000.html
Thanks for those links.

Regards,
Cormac.

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:52:49 +0200, Teemu Leinonen
<address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi Cormac,
> 
> Cormac McClean wrote:
> > There are 10 note types:
> 
> Did you use any "can be followed with" -rules? I am afraid that 10 is a
> lot to remember for students and with the rules you could reduce the
> number of types available in each state.
> 
> Isn't the waterfall model also rather restrictive? In that sense some
> kind of rules could make a lot of sense in here.
> 
> BTE: When using this typeset with programmer student, I would use the
> "progressive inquiry" typeset to generate discussion on the good and bad
> sides of the waterfall model. Just a thought.
> 
> > I would appreciate any feedback, good or bad, in the form or
> > correctios or suggestions. My Computer Programming / Software Systems
> > groups are starting to use this Knowledge Type Set and I expect
> > refinements will be made as a result of our learning experiences.
> 
> Please, let us know how did it go.
> 
> > I'm also planning the following:
> > 1. Knowledge Type Set: Incremental Model
> 
> Don't' know this model. Google told me that it is also a software
> development model. Interesting, tooo.
> 
> Is anyone interested in to create typeset for "extreme programming"
> (http://www.extremeprogramming.org/)? At least the user stories,
> elaboration and review of them,  release planning
> (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PlanningGame) etc. could be ran and this way
> teacher with help of knowledge building.
> 
> > 2. Translation of the FLE3 interface into Gaeilge (Irish Gaelic)
> 
> Nice - very nice.
> 
> > Once I get the hand of Zope-Python products development, I'd also like
> > to investigate the possibility of creating Concept Mapping tools for
> > use in FLE3.
> 
> I think with this you should consider the possibility to create one more
> way to browse and organize the notes of the knowledge building. Check
> out these notes in the dev list:
> 
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/fle3-dev/2004-11/msg00015.html
> 
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/fle3-dev/2003-01/msg00000.html
> 
> Tarmo knows if there is already something done with this - I guess not.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
>         - Teemu
> 
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Cormac McClean.
Lecturer, Athlone IT Software Engineering
Free/Open Source Software Enthusiast