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Re: [wip-cite-new] Merging tomorrow?

From: Joost Kremers
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Merging tomorrow?
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 08:47:15 +0200
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On Thu, Jul 08 2021, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 11:48 PM Timothy <tecosaur@gmail.com> wrote:
>> wip-cite-new deals with citing from bibliographies, but I don't think it
>> deals with within-document referencing --- should it?
> It doesn't now.
> I guess to break down the second question further:
> 1. Should it?

One thing to keep in mind here: these are two different sets of functionality
and a tool designed to handle one isn't necessarily right for handling the

Org-cite provides four capabilities: insert, follow, activate and export. And
while they may be very similar conceptually for a user, a provider would need to
handle each of these very differently for citations and in-document references.

And that's the point: while it makes sense for Ebib to provide insert and follow
capabilities for citations, there is really no point in Ebib providing those for
in-document references as well. It doesn't have the infrastructure for it, nor
is Ebib the first (or even second or third) option that comes to mind when you
think about inserting and following in-document references.

I do think it makes sense if such a hypothetical org-new-ref has a very similar
conceptual design to org-cite and a very similar user interface (e.g., the same
keybindings), and perhaps a part of the code can be shared, it should be
possible to register different provides for them.

Joost Kremers
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