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Re: [Feature] add a new org-attach dispatcher command to offline save we


From: stardiviner
Subject: Re: [Feature] add a new org-attach dispatcher command to offline save web page
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 00:00:44 +0800
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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

>> If have better solution, I totally agree with that.
>
> In the current state, your patch will be pretty much useless for users
> without technical background.
>
> url-retrieve-synchronously + save-buffer should be a better default. It
> will be available for all users.
>

I don't know how to implement similar functionality like monolith with
url-retrieve-synchronously + save-buffer. PATCH welcome.

> Ideally, there should be several customisation options. Something like:
>  - url-retrieve-synchronously
>  - curl
>  - wget
>  - monolith

Of course curl and wget is alternative options, just still same problem. Don't
know how to download web page as a single file and save it as archive file. If
use other ways, it's just another org-board. Then this patch will be 
unnecessary.

>
> Also, it would be great if you provide some description about each
> customisation in the docstring. For example, a link to github page of
> monolith and a brief description how it is different from other url
> retrieval methods should be useful for general user.

This is good solution, I will improve option description.

>
> Best,
> Ihor
>
>
> stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:
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>> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>> This looks helpful, but I think this should be an add-on rather than
>>>> integrated into the org-attach. I'm glad to learn about monolith, but
>>>> far fewer users are likely to have it installed than have wget or curl
>>>> installed. You might also want to check out org-board, which has similar
>>>> functionality:
>>>
>>> It does not mean that attaching URL directly is not worth including into
>>> org. This sounds pretty common use case, especially considering the number
>>> of packages providing similar feature. You mentioned org-board, but
>>> there is also org-download and org-web-tools.
>>
>> That's right, this phenomenon represents an obviously situation, Org Mode 
>> should
>> have this functionality.
>>
>>>
>>> I agree that monolith is completely uncommon tool and I would not expect
>>> the majority of users to have it installed, but the same functionality
>>> utilising built-in url.el (as a default) should be acceptable.
>>
>> If have better solution, I totally agree with that.
>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Ihor
>>>
>>>
>>> Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I attached the patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this feature will be helpful for use who archive web page data 
>>>>> usually
>>>>> like me. To be more portable, I also added an defcustom option for other
>>>>> external command. And use an if condition to detect whether external 
>>>>> command
>>>>> available, else warning user.
>>>>
>>>> This looks helpful, but I think this should be an add-on rather than
>>>> integrated into the org-attach. I'm glad to learn about monolith, but
>>>> far fewer users are likely to have it installed than have wget or curl
>>>> installed. You might also want to check out org-board, which has similar
>>>> functionality:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/scallywag/org-board
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>
>>
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