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Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers
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Per Abrahamsen |
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Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers |
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Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:48:08 +0100 |
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Stefan <address@hidden> writes:
>> And when it was there, it also got (ab)used in Emacs for minor modes.
>> It should have been part of a define-minor-mode instead, but as I
>> remember there already is was one of those.
>
> We now have a proper `define-minor-mode' (which internally uses :set but
> I guess that's OK).
Not really, that is just fluff. It still use a variable, so there is
(from a conceptual of view) no advantage of the current
`define-minor-mode' over defcustom. It is just a thin piece of
syntactical sugar, with no real abstraction.
But using a variable for minor mode may be the best thing anyway,
since minor modes already by convention have a (real) associated
variable. Overloading this variable, as is what we have done,
probably introduces less complexity than introducing a new "minor
mode" abstraction.
> so I suggested
>
> (defkeymap foo-map
> '((X1 Y1)
> (X2 Y2)
> (X3 Y3)
> (X4 Y4)))
>
> with some additional options like :inherit and :suppress. What it does
> w.r.t Custom can then be adjusted as you please and improved over time.
I believe the API, the UI, and save/load backend (for changes) has to
be designed together. Comming up with an API or UI or even save/load
backend individually only makes the other parts way harder, like it
did for define-minor-mode.
Again, keymaps have an associated variable, so resuing that as was
done by Alex' hack again would probably be the right thing to do.
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, (continued)
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Lennart Borgman, 2005/01/06
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Lennart Borgman, 2005/01/24
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Richard Stallman, 2005/01/08
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Per Abrahamsen, 2005/01/04
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Stefan, 2005/01/04
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Richard Stallman, 2005/01/04
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Stefan Monnier, 2005/01/04
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Richard Stallman, 2005/01/05
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Stefan Monnier, 2005/01/05
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Richard Stallman, 2005/01/06
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers,
Per Abrahamsen <=
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Robert J. Chassell, 2005/01/03
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Stefan Monnier, 2005/01/03
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Robert J. Chassell, 2005/01/03
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, David Kastrup, 2005/01/03
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Luc Teirlinck, 2005/01/03
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Richard Stallman, 2005/01/04
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Stefan Monnier, 2005/01/04
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Luc Teirlinck, 2005/01/05
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Stefan Monnier, 2005/01/06
- Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers, Richard Stallman, 2005/01/06