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Re: Need Windows Installer Testers


From: Christopher Armstrong
Subject: Re: Need Windows Installer Testers
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:35:14 +1100

Hi all

As I said before I would release a copy of my scripts. Please find them
in the attached tar ball file. It should be noted that the Inno install
is not working 100% correctly (it does not compile after download like
it says) but the file downloading scripts should work
(download_sources.sh).

Note that you will need wget to run them and the Inno ISTool GUI to make
the installer (it depends on part of ISTool that is not available with
Inno).

Regards
Chris

> 
> Hi Adam
> 
> The installer is looking good. Anything that automates the install helps
> significantly. I have some comments:
> 
> I see you have adapted the MINGW/MSYS installers. I assume that you will
> remove their licence agreements and the link to their README files from
> your installers (at the end of the MINGW/MSYS install package), and use
> GNUstep ones instead.
> 
> It might be useful to combine the MINGW/MSYS and support libraries into
> one installer. This way the user has less to download and they can still
> install GNUstep from source if they choose to do so.
> 
> The "depends" installer lets the user choose which dependency libraries
> to install. These should not be optional, because if the user installs
> your "core" package (the one actually containing GNUstep) they will need
> all these libraries if the GNUstep install is pre-compiled. In fact, the
> "depends" package shouldn't need to allow the user to change any optional
> bits and pieces anyway.
> 
> The msys link in the GNUstep start menu should probably be something like
> "GNUstep Development Shell (msys)". I think you can also rename the
> window through a command line option.
> 
> Lastly, I should admit I have been putting together an installer package
> for Windows (yes I know I should have said something, I didn't want to
> post it until it was almost done). We may be able to combine efforts,
> because most of my work has been automating the download of the file
> dependencies needed to put together an installer. That is, its a set of
> scripts used to generate an installer. However, I have been using Inno
> instead of NSIS to put the installer together and I'm yet to complete the
> MSYS .profile and fstab editing parts for MINGW (and some other parts). I
> like Inno because most things like dependency tracking and downloading is
> automated and it uses PASCAL instead of a stack-based scripting language,
> and it can be used as a 64bit installer binaries (when/if we need them).
> I avoided Wix/MSI because its restrictions make usage with GNUstep too
> tedious. I will my scripts as well (I may just finish them off first). 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> Adam Fedor wrote:
> 
> > I finally have a new windows installer ready, but I'd like people to  
> > test it out before I announce it generally. You should be able to  
> > install the required installers and the Calculator.app installer and   
> > "just run" the GNUstep Calculator app from the Start Menu (well I  
> > thought that was pretty cool :-)).
> >
> > I'm still working on things, but I bet there will be a bunch of  
> > issues that crop up that I have never thought of. Please let me know  
> > your experience with it!  Also check for Viruses!  My system is darn  
> > clean, but you never know where things can sneak in.
> >
> > See
> > http://www.gnustep.org/experience/Windows.html  (The links on this  
> > page may still be wrong)
> > or
> > ftp://ftpmain.gnustep.org/pub/gnustep/binaries/windows
> >
> > I'll have the installer scripts available on svn soon so you can help  
> > improve them as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:21:21 +0100
> From: Chris Vetter <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Memory usage of GNUstep processes
> To: GNUstep Discuss <address@hidden>
> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> 
> On Dec 14, 2007, at 6:20 PM, Pete French wrote:
> >> Thanks for this info!!! That is general unix behaviour or do Solaris,
> >> MacOSX, Linux,... have a different flavour of handling these kind of
> >> things
> > All have different flavours - I only recently found out that FreeBSD  
> > actually
> > returns the memory to the kerenl for feallocation after calling  
> > free(). I'm
> > more used to the traditional Unix way which has a process always  
> > growing
> > and not returning the memory until it exists, merely reusing it if  
> > freed.
> 
> That has always been the case for FreeBSD. From the looks of it, OSX  
> handles it the same way.
> 
> -- 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:35:44 -0800
> From: "Vaisburd, Haim" <address@hidden>
> Subject: RE: Memory usage of GNUstep processes
> To: <address@hidden>
> Message-ID:
>       <address@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"
> 
> >>> "After free() is executed, this space is made available for further 
> >>> allocation by the application, though not returned to the system.
> >>> Memory is returned to the system only upon termination of the 
> >>> application."
> 
> >> Thanks for this info!!! That is general unix behaviour or do Solaris,
> 
> >> MacOSX, Linux,... have a different flavour of handling these kind of 
> >> things?
> 
> > All have different flavours - I only recently found out that FreeBSD
> > actually returns the memory to the kernel for feallocation after
> calling free().
> 
> As far as I understand, it depends on the implementation of the memory
> allocator.
> I did not find any working examples, but I think that allocator using
> mmap()
> system call to get memory from OS and caring to call munmap() when the
> chunk is
> no longer nesessary would return the memory back. Thus any modern Unix
> would be
> able to do that.
> 
> Solaris has mapmalloc library. Its manual page hints that allocator from
> standard
> C library uses sbrk() to get memory, so returning it back is impossible
> in this case.
> 
> --Tima
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:13:46 +0100
> From: Riccardo <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: GWorkspace in unknown state: bug?
> To: Dennis Leeuw <address@hidden>
> Cc: GNUstep Discuss <address@hidden>
> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
> 
> Hey,
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > When I keep GWorkspace running hidden for a couple of days it happens 
> > that I 
> > keep the icon, but without the . on the minimized icon. And I can not 
> > get it 
> > to wake up again.
> <snip
> > 
> > This is the second time it happend. After this e-mail I will kill 
> > GWorkspace 
> > and restart it again, so any ideas for debugging the next occurance 
> > are 
> > welcome.
> 
> I don't think it is GWOrkspace. it is something which happens to me 
> semi-regularly with other applications too, like terminal or gnumail. 
> Usually doing a "gopen" of the application will bring it to front with 
> all the windows.
> Openapp can indeed open a second instance, which is very confusing.
> 
> Riccardo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:39:38 +0100
> From: Markus Hitter <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Need Windows Installer Testers
> To: Adam Fedor <address@hidden>
> Cc: Discuss GNUstep <address@hidden>
> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
> 
> 
> Am 14.12.2007 um 18:48 schrieb Adam Fedor:
> 
> > You should be able to install the required installers
> 
> Is there a specific reason why this is splitted into three parts?
> 
> > and the Calculator.app installer
> 
> My browser says: The requested URL /pub/gnustep/binaries/windows/ 
> Calculator-1.0.0-setup.exe was not found on this server.
> 
> 
> Markus
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter
> http://www.jump-ing.de/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:31:55 +0100
> From: Philippe Roussel <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Need Windows Installer Testers
> To: Adam Fedor <address@hidden>
> Cc: Discuss GNUstep <address@hidden>
> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Le vendredi 14 décembre 2007 à 10:48 -0700, Adam Fedor a écrit :
> > I finally have a new windows installer ready, but I'd like people to  
> > test it out before I announce it generally. You should be able to  
> > install the required installers and the Calculator.app installer and   
> > "just run" the GNUstep Calculator app from the Start Menu (well I  
> > thought that was pretty cool :-)).
> > 
> > I'm still working on things, but I bet there will be a bunch of  
> > issues that crop up that I have never thought of. Please let me know  
> > your experience with it!  Also check for Viruses!  My system is darn  
> > clean, but you never know where things can sneak in.
> 
> Hi Adam
> 
> I just tested the installers on Windows 2000 SP4 (!) and they work
> without any problem.
> 
> I couldn't find an installer for Calculator.app so I downloaded
> gnustep-examples-1.1.0.tar.gz and built them. I tested Calculator.app
> and ToolbarExample.app successfuly. I just couldn't install them as
> 'make install' errors out with :
> 
> /bin/sh: gnutar: command not found
> 
> Thanks for your work,
> Philippe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:20:34 -0800 (PST)
> From: Canol Gokel <address@hidden>
> Subject: My messages reaches late
> To: address@hidden
> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When I send a message to this group my messages arrives after 1 or 2
> days. Are messages approved by someone or is the problem somewhere else
> :( ?
> 
> 
>  
> Canol Gokel
> 
> Hacettepe Robot Toplulugu - Sineyorum
> 
> 
> 
> 
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