Re: Open URL in NSWorkspace

[Fred Kiefer]

Hi Fabien,

I think we should stop this discussion here. We have been here many
times before and I don't see anything new point arising. There are
people who think that GNUstep should try to follow Cocoa and others who
think that we should restrict ourselves to OpenStep, with proper
additions from Cocoa, of course.
It is fine to take any of these points of view, but what you can never
achieve is to force anybody else to take over your point. Nobody is
stopping you or anybody else to improve the OpenStep features of
GNUstep. Any contribution here is welcome. But so are Cocoa
compatibility changes, like the one I have just made.

Or are you suggesting that you and perhaps others stopped contributing
to GNUstep, because I and maybe others aim for Cocoa?

You are talking about new bugs that we have been introducing. Of course
we do this, whenever we change code there is the risk of adding new bugs
no matter if we change to improve old code or add Cocoa methods. But you
make it sound like we introduced bugs that made old functionality fail
because of Cocoa additions. Could you please elaborate on that point?

And then we may perhaps go back to the starting point of this thread and
discuss, how we should deal with NSURLs. An interesting question on
which I posted a controversial position on which I would prefer to see a
wild discussion, but the current one is really boring.

Cheers,
Fred

Fabien VALLON wrote:
> On Fri, August 3, 2007 1:00 pm, Nicolas Roard wrote:
> 
>>>>> GNUstep runs after Cocoa since 8 years.
>>>>> What does it gain for Open Source users?
>>>>> Nothing !
>> Come on... what do you mean it gains nothing ? GNUstep made a lot of
>> progresses, it's usable. It's not bug-free, there's also a lot left to
>> do, but you can use it to write apps..
> 
>> And as a free software users, we are better off with GNUstep existing
>> than without, no ?
>> So what exactly is your point ?
> 
>>From a user point of view, nothing.
> 
> GNUstep is still running after Cocoa and still introduce new bugs etc ...
> This is pure waste of times / effort.
> 
> Who use GNUstep/Etoile/Backbone on the desktop in every day usage ? 5
> developpers ?
> 
> The most usable application based on GNUstep is GNUMail.
> Who post ( even on the GNUstep mailing list ) with GNUMail ?
> 
> Why can we/you simply stay at OpenStep with few improvements :
> Exemple: Theming, autolayout, remove Archiver by KeyedArchiver, extend
> services  (?)
> 
> That would be enough for 90% of the applications.
> 
> There is so much thing to do !!!!
> 
> - Lot of bugs
> - Printing from cairo
> - Page Layout panel
> - Usable Text system
> - better usability for controls
> - builtin window Manager (?)
> - Fully feature Workspace.
> ..
> 
> This would take 1 or 2 years, even with 10 developpers !
> 
> For -gui :
> Why would you Cocoa compatibility ( porting a "real" Cocoa app is
> impossible with real work ) ?
> Why would you Win32 compatibility ? ( there is tons of framework that
> works better on Win32 )
> 
> Adding more code is bad for GNUstep/Etoile ressources ( number of
> developpers ). It is getting worse.
> 
> Having Etoile and GNUstep separate is already bad IMO.
>