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Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]
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Charles Philip Chan |
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Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers] |
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Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:34:40 -0400 |
On 2006-09-04 13:01:33 -0400 Andrew Sveikauskas
<a.l.sveikauskas@gmail.com> wrote:
> So, it seems the situation is like this:
> * Faction A loves GNUstep for its NeXT goodness
> * Faction B thinks GNUstep is out of place and should play nice
> with other
> desktops.
> * Probably some people believe both are true.
True.
> So, my thinking was, why not offer a few NSUserDefaults to appease B
> above?
> This would include:
Agreed.
> 1. An option to have NSMenus appear within a window. It would mix
> better
> with an existing X or Win32 desktop and would also help solve the
> "GNUstep
> doesn't work with focus follows mouse" problem.
We will need to fake a main window when no documents are opened to do
that.
> 2. An option that makes all NSPanels visible regardless of what
> application
> has focus. This would solve the other half of the "GNUstep doesn't
> work with
> focus follows mouse" problem.
The problem with this is that it will increase screen clutter.
> 3. An option to not show the app icon.
Agreed.
> These three options alone would probably make some people complain
> less. But
> then I realized that, options to tweak the UI already exist, yet
> people still
> complain about the "lack" of Mac-like menus, etc. Maybe said people
> do not
> read documentation, or maybe they are not well documented, but, it
> does raise
> an important point: there needs to be a very clear, intuitive,
> idiot-proof
> way for new users to change UI styles.
Things will improve once "WildMenus" and theming is integrated into
GUI.
> So my thought was very simple. It might be nice if gnustep-gui, upon
> running
> an application for the first time, popped up a panel that asked the
> user what
> kind of interface style they would want. There they could click away
> (select
> NeXT Mac or Win style menus, don't display the app icon, etc.)
> instead of
> being completely turned off by a program that doesn't fit their WM or
> desktop.
Agreed, KDE does that and it is very nice. IMHO, there should some
predefined themes that fixs in with the underlying system.
Charles
--
"Never make any mistaeks."
(Anonymous, in a mail discussion about to a kernel bug report.)
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- Re: really attracting developers, (continued)
- scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Marc Brünink, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Pete French, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Sašo Kiselkov, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Marc Brünink, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Charles Philip Chan, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Andrew Sveikauskas, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers],
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- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Andrew Sveikauskas, 2006/09/04
- Re: Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Nicolas Roard, 2006/09/04
- Re: Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], phil taylor, 2006/09/05
- Re: Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Charles Philip Chan, 2006/09/05
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Richard Frith-Macdonald, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], phil taylor, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Charles Philip Chan, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], phil taylor, 2006/09/04
- Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers], Chris Vetter, 2006/09/05
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