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Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality contr

From: Jason Clouse
Subject: Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:30:29 -0400

On 2003-10-25 21:32:57 +0200 Philip Mötteli <address@hidden> wrote:
> CoreFoundation is almost ported. Apart from that, it's very little used from 
> Cocoa developpers.

I seem to recall seeing it used by a lot of frameworks and other lower level 

>> Carbon,
> That's a problem. But that's the reason, why I said Cocoa programs. Carbon is 
> actually only used for old classic Mac programs. I don't think that a new 
> project would start by using Carbon. Would be suicide.

Again, I think I've seen stuff on Sourceforge et. al. that tries to use a 
little bit of Cocoa and a lot of Carbon.

>> WebCore,
> Is almost ported too.

This is extremely nifty and we should all thank Stefan in public for his hard 

> Well there's not a lot.

What about QuickTime?  Drawers, Toolbars, Sheets?  Rendezvous?

> Well, look at M$? Even with a heavily inferior environment to all their 
> competitors.

Microsoft got to where they are by accident.  They were in the right place at 
the right time.  If Apple had provided the OS for the PC, they would be where 
Microsoft is now.  Likewise, if Motorola had provided the processor for the PC, 
they would be where Intel is now.  It certainly wasn't because DOS was better 
than all the alternatives; besides they planned on replacing DOS almost from 
the beginning anyway.  They discovered they had a natural monopoly when nobody 
wanted to leave DOS because they had a vested interest with already-existing 

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