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Re: The GNUstep Roadmap

From: Richard Frith-Macdonald
Subject: Re: The GNUstep Roadmap
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:58:46 +0100

On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 09:32 AM, Markus Hitter wrote:

Am Freitag, 24.10.03 um 06:01 Uhr schrieb Chris B. Vetter:

Just consider it. You spend a sunny Saturday tracking down a bug that is apparently particular to your system (for whatever reason), you find it,
you fix it, you create a patch, you send it in -- and nothing happens.

Totally different experience here. Each patch I've commited so far was handled within a few days. Thanks a lot to the maintainers.

Realistically it's going to vary a lot ...

Sometimes developers are all just very busy on other stuff.
Sometimes a patch is in an area that none of the developers knows anything much about ... so everyone expects someone else more expert to deal with it. Sometimes it's a really simple thing fixing an obvious bug and seeming to have no repercussions elsewhere ... so it can be fitted in in a few minutes. Sometimes it's an obvious fix ... but there is a lot of non-obvious code which will be broken by making the fix, so it gets left until people can find time to update all that other code too. Sometimes it's not an obvious fix at all .. and the developers misunderstand the patch or simply can't be sure it's correct. Sometimes, for all the work that's been put in, the patch is actually wrong.

Irrespective of all these 'sometimes' ... I for one am grateful for patches and bug reports on savannah. The bug reporting mechanism beats simply sending to the mailing list for all but the most trivial problems ... it keeps track of things and the reporters can see the state of the report, so if it's been overlooked (nobody is working on it for a long time etc) the reporter can nag about it, and if it's closed but the reporter disagrees (eg because reporter/developer miscommunicated, or because the developer did what they thought was a complete fix, and missed some aspect of the problem) they know about it and can raise the issue. Things sent to mailing list all too easily get overlooked/forgotten.

What do people think about actively discouraging direct mailing of bug reports to the bug and discuss mailing lists?

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