Re: GNUStep Window Manager

[Nuno Donato]

The thing is, when I'm "using GNUStep" i like to see everything with 
GNUStep-look, including the window manager. And WindowMaker is probably 
the one which is actually similiar (big square buttons :p).
I'm familiar with PWM, so.. do you use it with GWorkspace? One more 
thing, GWorkspace always starts the file manager, and if i close it, 
GWorkspace closes it too.. whats wrong?

Thankx

Ian Jones wrote:
> Hi Nuno,
>
> Window managers as with most software are a personal taste thing. I used 
> windowmaker for a number of years before I even heard of GNUstep. It is 
> true that window maker is the 'official' window manager of GNUstep but 
> there really isn't that much more support for it in windowmaker than 
> other windowmanagers, the only thing that has been brought to my 
> attention in the past is that it understands levels of windows which 
> aparently other window managers don't which helps to reduce the focus 
> problems experienced with some other windowmanagers. Window managers 
> that support only sloppy focus for instance are a real pain to use with 
> GNUstep because the menu vanishes as soon as you take your mouse pointer 
> off the application to go to the menu, the solution is to use the right 
> click menu if you like sloppy focus. I'm currently using PWM a tabbed 
> window manager that only supports sloppy focus, it's very minimal and I 
> like the ability to be able to connect my windows together and switch 
> between them without having a multitude of overlapping title bars.
> Anyway, as far as I'm aware there isn't much development going on with 
> window maker now and with regard to GNUstep I don't see its support 
> getting any better. I think our real hopes and dreams lye with one of 
> the up and comming window managers written specifically for GNUstep, 
> woom, interfaceWM and today we saw the announcement of StepBox which I 
> haven't tried yet.
>
> As far as GWorkspace is concerned if you are going to run it you would 
> be best sticking with the workspaces it provides and not using the 
> windowmaker ones or vice-versa.
>
> AfterStep IMHO is a god-awful thing, configuration is an absolute 
> nitemare and it appears to me personally as window maker done badly. 
> Sorry if that offends any pro-AfterStep ppl but it really is bad!
>
> Currently I'll stick with PWM but it lacks a lot and I look forward to 
> one of the window managers written for GNUstep supporting tabs like PWM 
> does. If I had to choose a none GNUstep window manager again second to 
> PWM I would use window maker, it is a mature window manager and coexists 
> with GNUstep with the least problems.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ian
>
> On 2003-10-21 10:35:07 +0000 Nuno Donato <tuggyX@zmail.pt> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm new to this GNUStep stuff but i'm enjoying it so far.
> > I'm posting this to try to clear a doubt, Window Maker is like the 
> > "official" window manager fo GNUStep, right?
> > So why doesn't it integrate nicely with GWorkspace? If i run 
> > GWorkspace i get separate workspaces, that is, if I change from 
> > workspace 1 to workspace 2 in WindowMaker, GWorkspace completly 
> > disappears. So its like i have 4 workspaces(from GWorkspace) inside 
> > workspace 1 of WindowMaker :/
> > Also, they both seem to draw the desktop/background.
> >
> > And what do you think of using AfterStep as a wm for GNUStep?
> >
> > thank you
> >
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