Re: Denemo tutorials

[Richard Shann]

On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 10:56 -0700, jim wrote:
> 
> 
> I am interested in working with others to 
> develop Denemo tutorials. My background 
> includes nearly ten years of technical 
> writing, another nearly ten years of 
> teaching programming, as well as a life 
> time of playing music. 
> jim@well.com 

That would be great! What sort of tutorial material do you have in
mind? 
I guess you will have seen the videos linked to from denemo.org? If you
are thinking of written material with pictures, it would be possible to
add tutorial material to the manual (which is written in LyX https://ww
w.lyx.org/). That could be exported as HTML and linked to from
denemo.org.
I'm always around if there are questions about how to do particular
sorts of things in Denemo, and I flatter myself I am quite good at
proof-reading...

Richard





> 
> On 3/26/21 5:58 AM, Richard Shann wrote:
> > On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 12:13 +0000, fmaurer wrote:
> > > Hi there!
> > > Are there ant detailed tutorials available for Denemo?
> > 
> > Sadly no ...
> > > The tutorials seem to jump from basic note input to 
> > > SATB choir on two staffs
> > > Create the parts one to a staff using the Voice Preset commands
> > > (Staffs/Voices->Voices menu)
> > > Then use the Staff Groupings to set Choir staff start and end.
> > > (no longer needed is join the staffs with Join Voices before
> > > printing, that just affects the display
> > > You can edit two voices on one staff, but it is best to use Split
> > > Staffs first.)
> > > Note there a template for this (see Open -> Templates), and in
> > > Open
> > > -> Example there is a file showing how to typeset lyrics above an
> > > below the staffs for the four parts.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > without showing what actually needs to be done and how it should
> > > look
> > > like.
> > > For example what does "Create the parts one to a staff" actually
> > > mean?
> > 
> > Yes, that's pretty cryptic and several years out of date. I've just
> > updated it thus:
> > 
> > "Create one staff for each of the four parts using the Staffs->Add
> > Staff menu. Then make the second
> > and fourth staffs typeset as voices using the the Staffs->Voices-
> > >Staff 
> > to Voice command.
> > Then use the Voice Preset commands (Staffs/Voices->Voices menu) to
> > set
> > the stem directions for each voice.
> > Use the Staffs/Voices->Staff Groupings menu to set Choir staff
> > brace
> > start on the first staff and end brace on the last.
> > Note there a template for this (see Open -> Standard Template), and
> > in
> > Open -> Example there is a file showing how to typeset lyrics above
> > an
> > below the staffs for the four parts."
> > 
> > And I see that the template referred to is actually missing - I've
> > added it now (and I attach it here in case it is your particular
> > use-
> > case).
> > 
> > > It is very hard to follow something if you don't know what the
> > > actual
> > > output is supposed to be!
> > 
> > yes - the assumption there is that someone reading "SATB on two
> > staffs"
> > would have a picture in their mind of two staffs one with the
> > soprano
> > and alto parts and the other with the tenor and bass. Even so,
> > reading
> > the section "Some Terminology" at the start of the manual (F1 key
> > in
> > Denemo) would be required to make sense of the instructions - the
> > use
> > of "staff" and "voice" is not obvious.
> > 
> > On the plus side, asking on this mailing list about how to do
> > things is
> > profitable, and user-contributed tutorials would be most welcome :)
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
>