Re: [Denemo-devel] New Binaries?

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:

On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 10:20 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Richard Shann
> <address@hidden> wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 08:44 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> > Lilypond did not work for me in Windows Xp.
> I know of an XP machine I could test on, but it may take a
> while.
> > If I changed the prefs to point to the official lilypond
> directory,
> > everything went fine. Can you confirm for me that you prefs
> are truly
> > pointing at the denemo distributed lilypond?
> I just checked in the Denemo rc file, and in any case I
> deleted .denemo-1.2.3 before running it. But the real killer
> check is to
> run it at the local library, whose machines have never seen
> Denemo or
> LilyPond. I haven't had a chance to do this with your binary.
> I have two
> or three people who will be testing though.
> >
> >
> > The install .exe needs to be tested.
>
> I've just tested this on windows vista, everything was ok
> except for a
> segfault on exit, occurring in close_gui_with_check() (no
> debugging
> symbols are available).
>
> > I don't have darwin packaged up yet. In gub I get stuck
> compiling
> > glib. There is no binary of glib, gtk and friends on the gtk
> website.
> > I have compiled denemo natively in darwin and can create a
> bundle
> > based on it. The only problem is that the fonts don't show
> in the left
> > side panel It is the ugly [].
> The "side panel" is, in fact three palettes packed in there,
> which
> anyone doing more than playing with the mouse will want to
> delete. But
> this won't be the only place the Denemo font is being used -
> it is used
> in many, many places. The purpose is so to be able to write
> sentences
> using embedded characters for crotchets/quarter notes/rests
> etc so that
> they are understood by everyone, even those with rudimentary
> English.
>
> > If we can't fix this font issue,
> > can we write code to minimize or hide this left side panel.
> That would be easy enough - the palettes are entirely
> configurable -
> but, as I say, the problem is much more pervasive. We didn't
> create
> those Denemo caricatures of the 1/4 note etc for nothing. In a
> standard
> font the 1/4 note and 1/2 note glyphs are very difficult to
> distinguish
> if they are included in a piece of text (as in "Change a 𝅘𝅥 to
> a 𝅗𝅥")
>
>
> > Is there an option for that that I do not know about?
>
> I would guess what's needed is some sort of font-install thing
> for the
> mac, like we have for windows ... but I guess what is puzzling
> is that
> this issue should arise now - nothing has changed around fonts
> for
> several releases...
>
>
> There is an application that installs and views fonts called fontbook.
> It shows that denemo.ttf is already installed. I see the quarter and
> half note you placed in this email and I can see and use the font in
> LibreOfice. Denemo did not complain about not finding the font. This
> may be a gtk3 thing perhaps. The default build in macports is to build
> denemo with X11 and gtk3. When I was building with gub, it used gtk2
> and quartz backend instead of X11. I don't know if this is the issue.
> I will compile again using gtk3 and the quartz backend. I ran the
> fc-cache program and pango-query-modules and all that but it looks as
> if denemo finds the fonts but it fails to display.

In the "panel" on the right those are palette button labels, you can
edit them (right click) and you will see that they are using the pango
markup language - something like <span font-description=\"denemo\" ....)

When I did right clicked and chose edit label, I saw what was supposed to be the font but it looked like a box with numbers on it [0123]. I erased this and tried to copy paste the font into the dialog box but I saw [0123] in the fonts place after pasting.

I'm not sure where else this formula is used - look in the
Notes/Rests->Change Duration, both the labels *and* the tooltips will be
using the glyphs by one means or another I think.
Which of these (if any) are working?

I see the flat and sharp symbols seems to work. I can try a gtk2 build later tonight.

Jeremiah

Richard

>
>
> Jeremiah
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> > Everything else looks good.
> >
> >
> > Jeremiah
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Richard Shann
> > <address@hidden> wrote:
> > ... and with the mingw zip file of the 10th June
> >
> >
> http://denemo.org/~jjbenham/gub/uploads/denemo-mingw-0.0.0.zip
> >
> > you appear to have it working out of the box. I
> tested a bunch
> > of
> > things, including MIDI input, and found nothing that
> failed.
> > This is
> > with a Windows Vista laptop.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 18:00 +0100, Richard Shann
> wrote:
> > > I expect you know all about this, but I noticed
> another
> > mingw zip file
> > > from today (9th Jun) and it has a working
> LilyPond, only the
> > compiled
> > > schemas file was missing, which I copied in as
> before, then
> > everything I
> > > tested worked - including the latest graphical
> interface to
> > the
> > > braces :)
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 13:51 -0500, Jeremiah Benham
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Richard Shann
> > > > <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > Further testing: on trying to launch the
> file
> > chooser this new
> > > > version
> > > > crashes with the attached message. The
> error seems
> > to be quite
> > > > common -
> > > > some GTK3 thing requiring a file called
> > gschemas.compiled to
> > > > be created
> > > > and installed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I see this file is supposed to be generated at
> runtime. We
> > can put it
> > > > in the .bat file. I am not sure what we have to
> do with
> > the installed
> > > > version.
> > > >
> >
> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/gstreamer-sdk/data/docs/latest/gio/glib-compile-schemas.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jeremiah
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I found (by chance) that this file *was*
> present
> > in the
> > > > previous version of the zip file (under
> > > > usr/share/glib2.0/schemas) and I
> > > > copied from there to the same place in
> both the
> > zip
> > > > installation and
> > > > the .exe installation and in both cases
> the file
> > chooser came
> > > > up ok.
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 15:07 +0100,
> Richard Shann
> > wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 10:59 -0500,
> Jeremiah
> > Benham wrote:
> > > > > > I just compiled a new mingw binary
> for
> > testing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Good news - the threading bug has
> indeed been
> > fixed. Windows
> > > > can be
> > > > > dragged around and re-sized once more
> - I
> > suspect this is
> > > > going to fix
> > > > > all those headaches with the Apple Mac
> too - it
> > too won't be
> > > > using X11 I
> > > > > guess.
> > > > >
> > > > > The zip file didn't contain the
> Denemo.bat file,
> > nor the
> > > > regfont.exe in
> > > > > the bin directory (I copied them from
> earlier
> > versions to
> > > > test).
> > > > >
> > > > > More seriously, the LilyPond crashes.
> If
> > possible, we should
> > > > wind the
> > > > > clock back to the tools and libraries
> we used
> > when LilyPond
> > > > was building
> > > > > properly. If I recall correctly it was
> only an
> > upgrade to
> > > > glib that we
> > > > > needed for the newer threading
> functions ... we
> > then got
> > > > drawn into
> > > > > upgrading all sorts of stuff as we hit
> the
> > thread bug which
> > > > have now
> > > > > been fixed.
> > > > > I suggest winding the clock back to
> get LilyPond
> > working
> > > > only because I
> > > > > gather that it is very tricky to get
> it to build
> > correctly -
> > > > but you
> > > > > know more about that than I do.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm hopeful that we have now put
> behind us a lot
> > of sporadic
> > > > problems
> > > > > with threads, so I think this is
> really good
> > news.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Jeremiah
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On May 29, 2015 4:06 PM, "Richard
> Shann"
> > > > <address@hidden>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > ... deeper still, it seems
> that two
> > other classes
> > > > of call need
> > > > > > changing,
> > > > > > which I have done for gtk3
> only from
> > denemo.h
> > > > > > So *now* I think I have got
> to the
> > bottom of this
> > > > problem, and
> > > > > > the mingw
> > > > > > build should at last work
> correctly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Richard
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 19:52
> +0100,
> > Richard Shann
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, 2015-05-29 at
> 19:28 +0100,
> > Richard Shann
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > I've tracked down more
> of this
> > thread and it
> > > > seems that
> > > > > > the fix (below)
> > > > > > > > was not the solution: it
> seems
> > that
> > > > gdk_threads_init() is
> > > > > > deprecated and
> > > > > > > > should not be used.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > reading on deeper, the
> > gdk_threads_enter() and
> > > > leave() are
> > > > > > apparently
> > > > > > > also dangerous and
> shouldn't be
> > there, again I
> > > > have removed
> > > > > > them and
> > > > > > > tested on Debian and all
> seems well.
> > > > > > > So this too is now in git
> -
> > hopefully this is
> > > > the last of
> > > > > > that bug.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've just removed it
> and tested
> > on Debian and
> > > > > > > > everything seems fine.
> So
> > re-building from git
> > > > may now
> > > > > > result in no more
> > > > > > > > crashes...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 2015-05-29 at
> 18:28 +0100,
> > Richard
> > > > Shann wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2015-05-29 at
> 18:10
> > +0100, Richard
> > > > Shann wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I think I have found
> a
> > description of our
> > > > problem:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/2012-July/msg00000.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > this guy even
> suggests a fix:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
> 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
> > > > > > > > > > diff --git
> > a/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
> > > > > >
> b/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
> > > > > > > > > > index
> 2bc7c12..3505fe2 100644
> > > > > > > > > > ---
> > a/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
> > > > > > > > > > +++
> > b/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
> > > > > > > > > > @@ -3369,9 +3369,10
> @@
> > gdk_event_dispatch
> > > > (GSource
> > > > > > *source,
> > > > > > > > > > {
> > > > > > > > > > GdkEvent *event;
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > _gdk_win32_display_queue_events
> > > > (_gdk_display);
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > GDK_THREADS_ENTER
> ();
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -
> > _gdk_win32_display_queue_events
> > > > (_gdk_display);
> > > > > > > > > > event =
> _gdk_event_unqueue
> > > > (_gdk_display);
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > if (event)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
> 8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><8><
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Looking at
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk
> > > > > >
> +/tree/gdk/win32/gdkevents-win32.c
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it would seem this
> patch has not
> > been
> > > > adopted.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There is a comment
> just before
> > the assertion
> > > > that fails
> > > > > > > > > /* CRITICAL_SECTION
> is
> > reentrant, but
> > > > SRWLock is not.
> > > > > > > > > * Detect the
> deadlock that
> > would occur on
> > > > later
> > > > > > Windows version.
> > > > > > > > > */
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is it possible that
> this code is
> > only valid
> > > > for windows
> > > > > > XP, that would
> > > > > > > > > seem incredible. I can
> test on
> > windows XP
> > > > given a bit of
> > > > > > time, but
> > > > > > > > > surely they can't be
> just
> > ignoring the vast
> > > > majority of
> > > > > > windows users???
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > which is moving the
> call to
> > > > > >
> _gdk_win32_display_queue_events()
> > outside of
> > > > > > > > > > the
> GDK_THREADS_ENTER ();
> > section.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The thread ends with
> Emanuele
> > Bassi
> > > > sending him off to
> > > > > > the jungle of
> > > > > > > > > > gnome bug
> trackers ...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This report is
> nearly a year
> > old. Can it
> > > > really be
> > > > > > broken so long?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2015-05-29
> at 09:34
> > -0500,
> > > > Jeremiah Benham
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > I have built
> another one
> > based off the
> > > > gtk win32
> > > > > > bundle but it also
> > > > > > > > > > > crashed when
> moving the
> > window. I don't
> > > > know what
> > > > > > else to do here.
> > > > > > > > > > > Once you mentioned
> a native
> > windows tool
> > > > that was
> > > > > > similar to mxe.
> > > > > > > > > > > Would it be easier
> to
> > natively compile
> > > > it?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jeremiah
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 25, 2015
> 12:07 PM,
> > "Richard
> > > > Shann"
> > > > > > <address@hidden>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun,
> 2015-05-24
> > at 23:54
> > > > -0500, Jeremiah
> > > > > > Benham wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have
> found a
> > page on gtk's
> > > > website that
> > > > > > has all the
> > > > > > > > > > > version
> numbers
> > > > > > > > > > > > they
> recommend for
> > gtk3 and
> > > > win32.
> > > > > > > > > > > That
> sounds
> > promising, let me
> > > > know when
> > > > > > there is something to
> > > > > > > > > > > test.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> going to
> > use this as a
> > > > template and
> > > > > > rebuild. I did
> > > > > > > > > > > retest and
> I
> > > > > > > > > > > > believe
> it worked
> > in vista but
> > > > not in XP.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, I was
> able to
> > drag the main
> > > > display a
> > > > > > short distance
> > > > > > > > > > > before it
> > > > > > > > > > > crashed on
> the last
> > version,
> > > > instead of it
> > > > > > crashing straight
> > > > > > > > > > > away.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jeremiah
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May
> 24, 2015
> > 10:41 AM,
> > > > "Richard Shann"
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > <address@hidden>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> I saw that
> > you have
> > > > tried another
> > > > > > build dated 25th
> > > > > > > > > > > May, so I
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> tested
> > this
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> one too
> > from the zip
> > > > version and
> > > > > > it still will not
> > > > > > > > > > > allow any
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> window
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> re-size
> > nor run
> > > > LilyPond. From all
> > > > > > I have read it
> > > > > > > > > > > would seem
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> likely
> > that
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> some
> > combination of
> > > > library
> > > > > > versions and compiler
> > > > > > > > > > > versions
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> will work,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> but I
> > don't know how
> > > > to find out
> > > > > > which. Have you
> > > > > > > > > > > been able
> to
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> re-test
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> the one
> > that appeared
> > > > to work on
> > > > > > windows vista?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> Richard
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> On Fri,
> > 2015-05-22 at
> > > > 08:47 -0500,
> > > > > > Jeremiah Benham
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > On Fri,
> > May 22, 2015
> > > > at 4:12 AM,
> > > > > > Richard Shann
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > On Thu,
> > > > 2015-05-21 at
> > > > > > 15:26 -0500,
> > > > > > > > > > > Jeremiah
> Benham
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > I created
> > > > new mingw
> > > > > > binaries. This time
> > > > > > > > > > > it is
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> based on
> > gtk3.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > I've
> > > > downloaded and
> > > > > > tested
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
> http://denemo.org/~jjbenham/gub/uploads/denemo-mingw-0.0.0.zip
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > running
> > > > Denemo.bat it
> > > > > > complains that
> > > > > > > > > > >
> libaubio-4.dll
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> is not
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > found - I
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > moved it
> > > > from /lib
> > > > > > to /bin and the program
> > > > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> started
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > correctly.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > Ok.
> > Thanks for
> > > > letting me know.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > The good
> > > > news is that
> > > > > > the fonts are now
> > > > > > > > > > > found, and
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> the nice
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > gtk3
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > features are
> > > > present.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > However,
> > > > LilyPond
> > > > > > crashes while processing
> > > > > > > > > > > a file
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> and Denemo
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > crashes the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > moment you
> > > > try to
> > > > > > re-size a window, both
> > > > > > > > > > > symptoms
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> exactly as
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > before.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > The crash
> > > > when trying to
> > > > > > move or re-size a
> > > > > > > > > > > window
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> has
> > probably
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > not
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > changed
> > > > because, despite
> > > > > > moving to gtk3 I
> > > > > > > > > > > guess that
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > version of
> > > > glib
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > is
> > > > unaltered?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > I used
> > 2.43 for
> > > > both. I will try
> > > > > > downgrading and
> > > > > > > > > > >
> rebuilding.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > Whether this
> > > > is related
> > > > > > to lilypond not
> > > > > > > > > > > working
> I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> not sure
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > I will
> > upgrade it to
> > > > 2.18.2 or
> > > > > > whatever the latest
> > > > > > > > > > > stable of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> lilypond.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > - the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > attached
> > > > screenshot on
> > > > > > the blue background
> > > > > > > > > > > is from
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> running
> > gdb
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > lilypond.exe
> > > > on a file
> > > > > > called fbtest.ly
> > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> succeeds
> > in
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > earlier
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > versions of
> > > > the denemo
> > > > > > installer. The
> > > > > > > > > > > crash in
> this
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> case is
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > reported in
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > a memory
> > > > allocation
> > > > > > routine.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > So the most
> > > > hopeful line
> > > > > > might be to look
> > > > > > > > > > > at which
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> version of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > glib is
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > involved in
> > > > the last two
> > > > > > builds. I guess
> > > > > > > > > > > there are
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> also lower
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > level
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > things
> > > > (people talk
> > > > > > about pthreads and the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> compiler's
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > libraries ...)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > which could
> > > > be giving us
> > > > > > the trouble.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > We could
> > > > install a piece
> > > > > > of code at the
> > > > > > > > > > > start of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> main() in
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > Denemo that
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > - never
> > > > executes the
> > > > > > rest of Denemo's
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > code. Then
> > > > trying to
> > > > > > resize the window
> > > > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> confirm
> > that the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > bug is
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > not
> > > > connected with
> > > > > > Denemo's use of
> > > > > > > > > > > threads.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > Could
> > also you try
> > > > to resize the
> > > > > > dialog window
> > > > > > > > > > > that asks
> you
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> if you
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > want to
> > import your
> > > > old prefs?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > I will
> > rebuild now.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > Jeremiah
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > Richard
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > Jeremiah
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > On May 13,
> > > > 2015 6:51
> > > > > > AM, "Richard Shann"
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > <address@hidden>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > On
> > > > Tue,
> > > > > > 2015-05-12 at 15:40
> > > > > > > > > > > -0500,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> Jeremiah
> > Benham
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > What do you
> > > > > > think is causing
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> missing
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> don't
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > I've done some
> > > > > > gdb debugging on
> > > > > > > > > > > the fonts
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> thing: I
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > noticed
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > that one of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > the buttons in
> > > > > > the horizontal
> > > > > > > > > > > palette,
> the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> one for
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > entering
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > notes in
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > chords *was*
> > > > > > showing the two
> > > > > > > > > > > quarter
> notes
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> in the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > correct
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > font. Looking
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > at
> > > > its label I
> > > > > > see that it uses
> > > > > > > > > > > the gtk
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> markup
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > language to
> > > > set
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > the font
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > explicitly,
> > > > > > where the other
> > > > > > > > > > > palette
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> buttons
> > just
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > assume the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > font has
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > been set. The
> > > > > > menu items and
> > > > > > > > > > > tooltips
> will
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> also just
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > assume
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > the font is
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > set I think.
> > > > > > The call to set the
> > > > > > > > > > > default
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> font is
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > towards the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > end of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > view.c
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> gtk_settings_set_string_property
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> (settings,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > "gtk-font-name",
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > Denemo.prefs.fontspec->str,
> > > > > > > > > > > "denemo");
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > this appears
> > > > > > to be called twice
> > > > > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> starting
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > file, but
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > backtrace is
> > > > > > obscure. I tried
> > > > > > > > > > > calling it
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> again from
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > within gdb
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > but this
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > gives a crash
> > > > > > during the call,
> > > > > > > > > > > perhaps
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> because of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > not being in
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > the right
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > part of the
> > > > > > gtk_main loop. In
> > > > > > > > > > > fact,
> mostly
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> this gdb
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > environment is
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > obscure - the
> > > > > > symbol Denemo
> > > > > > > > > > > (which
> should
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> be the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > root object
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > of
> > > > all the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > Denemo data)
> > > > > > prints as 0, and
> > > > > > > > > > > when
> trying
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> to access
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > Denemo.project
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > (which should
> > > > > > be the current
> > > > > > > > > > > score) gdb
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> says
> > Denemo
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > is not a
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > structure.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > The info
> > > > > > threads just lists a
> > > > > > > > > > > bunch of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> threads
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > in .dlls
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > (whereas our
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > threads now
> > > > > > have proper names).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > So
> > > > this fonts
> > > > > > problem is not to
> > > > > > > > > > > do with
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> failing to
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > install
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > fonts, but
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > failing to
> > > > > > make gtk use the
> > > > > > > > > > > correct
> font
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> as the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > default.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > and the
> > > > > > crashing?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > this happens
> > > > > > the instant you try
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> re-size a
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > window. I
> > > > found
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > something else
> > > > > > too - LilyPond is
> > > > > > > > > > > crashing,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> windows
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > throws up a
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > window to
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > say it has
> > > > > > stopped working,
> > > > > > > > > > > while
> denemo
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> itself
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > continues to
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > work ok.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > I've run it
> > > > > > from the command
> > > > > > > > > > > line and
> it
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> gets as
> > far
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > as
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > "Preprocessing
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > graphical
> > > > > > objects" and then
> > > > > > > > > > > complains
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> about
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > std::bad_alloc()
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > Perhaps we
> > > > > > might have better
> > > > > > > > > > > luck with
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> gtk3 - at
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > least they
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > are actively
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > working on
> > > > > > that.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > I am having
> > > > > > trouble creating
> > > > > > > > > > > binaries
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> for
> > Darwin.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > I did
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > natively
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > compile
> > > > > > denemo on Darwin but
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> denemo.ttf
> > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > is not
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > displaying on
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > the side or
> > > > > > in the menu.
> > > > > > > > > > > Everything
> else
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> seems
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > fine. This
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > was compiled
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > against
> > > > > > gtk3. I don't know if
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> problem
> > will be
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > gone if I
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > use gtk2.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > What do you
> > > > > > recommend I do?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > This seems to
> > > > > > be the failure to
> > > > > > > > > > > get gtk to
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> take
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > notice of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > desired
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > default font
> > > > > > that I've described
> > > > > > > > > > > above.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> Apparently
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > there
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > are .ini type
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > files in which
> > > > > > the desired font
> > > > > > > > > > > can be
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > specified ...
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.8/GtkSettings.html
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > Jeremiah
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > On May 11,
> > > > > > 2015 9:44 AM,
> > > > > > > > > > > "Richard
> Shann"
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > <address@hidden>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > I
> > > > > > thought it might be
> > > > > > > > > > > good to
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> check the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > installer
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > version too
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > -
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > behaves similarly, no
> > > > > > > > > > > fonts and
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> it works
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > until you
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > try a
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > window re-size,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > which is instant
> > > > > > > > > > > death.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > On
> > > > > > Wed, 2015-05-06 at
> > > > > > > > > > > 11:15
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> +0100,
> > Richard
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > Shann
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > On
> > > > > > Tue, 2015-05-05
> > > > > > > > > > > at 16:29
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> -0500,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > Jeremiah
> > > > Benham
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I upgraded gtk.
> > > > > > > > > > > Maybe this
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> will fix
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > the problem.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > I
> > > > created
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > new
> > > > > > mingw
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > binaries.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tested the zip
> > > > > > > > > > > file
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> version -
> > it
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > starts up
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > with the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > denemo.ttf font
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > not found, but notes
> > > > > > > > > > > can be
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> entered.
> > Any
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > attempt
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > re-sizing a window
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > etc causes a crash.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > Typesetting appears
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > to cause a
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > crash in
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > lilypond
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > process started
> > > > > > > > > > > (Denemo
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> carries on
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > working, but
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > microsoft
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > visual c++
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > runtime library
> > > > > > > > > > > window
> pops up
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> to warn
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > of a crash,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > but it
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > never gets
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > filled in - see
> > > > > > > > > > >
> attachment).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeremiah
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > On May 5, 2015
> > > > > > > > > > > 9:00 AM,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> "Richard
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > Shann"
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > <address@hidden>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue,
> > > > > > > > > > > 2015-05-05
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> at 06:21
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > -0500,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > Jeremiah
> > > > > > Benham
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have
> > > > > > > > > > > created
> the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> mingw
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > binaries. I
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > will work
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the others
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > today.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > > > > > downloaded
> and
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> run the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > zip file
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > version -
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > unfortunately
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it crashes
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > starting -
> it
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> hangs the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > machine for
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > quite a
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > while as it
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > does this.
> > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ran it
> > > > > > > > > > > under gdb
> and
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> saw that
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > it seemed
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > to
> > > > be some
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > sort
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > thread
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > problem -
> > > > > > > > > > > I turned
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> off the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > continuous
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > typesetting
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > (by
> > > > > > editing
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > the denemo
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > rc file)
> > > > > > > > > > > and it
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> started
> > ok. I
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > could
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > enter a few
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > notes and they
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > sounded
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > on entry.
> > > > > > > > > > > When I
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> tried to
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > typeset in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > Print
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > View
> > > > > > window it
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > completely
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > hung the
> > > > > > > > > > > machine,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> requiring
> > a
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > hard
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > re-boot. This
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > is
> > > > > > on the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Windows
> > > > > > > > > > > Vista
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > laptop
> > > > > > > > > > > that runs
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> 1.2.2
> > without
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > a
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > problem.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I did
> > > > > > > > > > > another
> run,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> this time
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > without
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > trying
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > typesetting -
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > after a
> > > > > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it froze
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> machine. I
> > found
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > that
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > ctrl-alt-del
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > gave
> > > > > > me access
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > to the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > machine
> > > > > > > > > > > again and
> I
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> was able
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > to take a
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > snapshot of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > gdb
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > console
> > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I attach.
> > > > > > > > > > > It looks
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> like this
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > is
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > threading
> > > > > > problems
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > inside the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > gtk system
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > > > > than some
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> denemo
> > thread
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > problem
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > (I
> > > > was just
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > changing
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > between
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > windows in
> > > > > > > > > > > Denemo
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> when it
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > crashed,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > rather than
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > initiating
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > playback,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > entering
> > > > > > > > > > > notes etc
> -
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> that's no
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > guarantee, of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > course, but my
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > gut
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > feeling).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think it
> > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> help if we
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > could get
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > rid of the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > code
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > prompts
> > > > > > > > > > > "Type
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ENTER..."
> > > > > > > > > > > - I know
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> you have
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > tried
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > before, but
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > evidently it is
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > there.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jeremiah
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On May
> > > > > > > > > > > 1, 2015
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> 10:25 AM,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > "Richard
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > Shann"
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > <address@hidden>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> 2015-05-01
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > at 09:42
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > -0500,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > Jeremiah Benham
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I now
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> have a gub
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > branch with
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > upgraded
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > glib
> > > > > > but I
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > am stuck
> > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > nsis . I
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> create a
> > zip
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > version
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > That
> would
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> be
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > excellent -
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > people can try
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > it
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> committing
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > themselves.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Is the
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> nsis
> > problem
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > related to
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > the new
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > glib?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> Jeremiah
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> 29, 2015
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > 8:20 AM,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > "Jeremiah
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > Benham"
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > > >
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From:	Jeremiah Benham
Subject:	Re: [Denemo-devel] New Binaries?
Date:	Mon, 15 Jun 2015 09:16:59 -0500