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Re: [Denemo-devel] The next piece


From: Nils Gey
Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] The next piece
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:48:56 +0100

Thanks for the answer. I will try your method as well.
But what these automatically added lines - - - - - - -  if the lyirc line is 
not complete is really annoying. It is ok if you have lyrics completly for the 
whole piece. But if there is an instrumental part you have the lines and can't 
delete them.

Practical example from today: I want to write a song where you have one refrain 
and several verses, while the refrain comes first followed by the verse-melody. 
With one or another method is it possible to add the verses. The lines make it 
impossible to add an additional lyric-entry point in Denemo for the verse block.

I think there was an explanation why these are there. But for me it looks like 
unwanted behaviour. It is possible to deactivate this or have some workarounds?

Nils


On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:57:56 +0000
Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:24 +0100, Nils Gey wrote:
> > Because it is my task to write at least one piece in one week, no matter 
> > how simple or how small, here is my next one. Since I will write every 
> > piece of music in Denemo I hope I can give you feedback and bug reports 
> > which appear in "real life".
> > If it annoys you that I send my work with my Denemo-experience to this list 
> > please let me know and I will stop.
> It is really great to have real feedback. Please continue.
> > 
> > Today I wrote a folk-song in Germans 19th century style. Consisting of a 
> > monophonic voice, lot of stancers and probably an idea how to harmonize, 
> > normally shown in Guitar-Chords above the staff. Text is about wandering 
> > around in the dark and cold, feeling the far-away home but you have to 
> > travel on. In the end there is hope and the sun still shines. Typical 
> > romantic, wanderlust theme.
> > 
> > This means today I learned about setting Chords with Denemo and using the 
> > lyircs. My goal was to save all information within Denemo and not to use a 
> > text-editor afterwards. [Done]
> > 
> > For the chords I have reported two bugs, but the buglist is rather slow 
> > with sending mails to the mailinglist. 
> > 
> > For the lyrics I can say Denemo is not fit to write more than simple lyrics 
> > in an easy way. But Richard told me this before. 
> 
> > Because I didn't understand the "multiple verses" example
> It is not so very different from your own hack. Yours has the advantage
> that you can see the lyrics in the Denemo window, but they are not
> spaced underneath the notes (because you have put them all on the first
> note). In my hack the lyrics showing in the Denemo window are not used
> (in a custom scoreblock you can just ignore things you don't want).
> Instead the lyrics are just created as text at the start of the custom
> scoreblock. And then they are used in the \score { } block itself.
> The advantage of this is that you can edit the lyrics easily - you can
> just stay in the LilyPond window, editing & re-printing to see that you
> have the syllables right.
> Attached is your file with the lyrics moved into the scoreblock - now
> you can edit them more easily. I've invented a name for the first line
> of lyrics, so now they are called d, a, b, c
> but you will get the idea I hope.
> 
> What does need fixing is nice editor commands for the LilyPond window,
> but you can cut paste and drag text.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Nils Gey <address@hidden>




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