Re: [Bug-gnubg] Match statistics graph

[Joern Thyssen]

On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 03:20:26PM -0300, Albert Silver wrote
> > Remember that the main platform for gnubg is the GNU platform, e.g.,
> > GNU/Linux or GNU/Hurd.
> > 
> > We should *NOT* introduce all the bad design of Windows and Windows
> > programs into gnubg.
> 
> Of course, but I don't think that is the case here. One must certainly
> find a balance between usefulness and ease-of-use, and I don't see using
> that baalnce being threatened here. Having a Player Record, or the data
> within, is both useful and convenient. It isn't something that is
> particular to Windows. Consider the unified GUI. I think it is a LOT
> better, and the compliments in GOL and e-mail have been numerous. I'd be
> glad to recopy them here for you. I haven't seen one single user prefer
> the older multiple windows á la UNIX.

I like the old layout better, but as it seems that I'm outnumbered I
didn't bother to complain :-)

> > > The list wouldn't involve any graphics, since I can't even begin to
> see
> > > how graphics would be of help in such a breakdown, and would simply
> be
> > > able to list them as such.
> > 
> > Now you got me confused!
> > 
> > First you say that the average windows (and/or gnubg) user would not
> > know how to copy a file and now you're happy with a plain text file
> with
> > several thousand[*] lines of text??!!
> > 
> > [*] My own players' records comprises 1,625 games.
> 
> I'll repeat that I am against needing to export basic data to be able to
> read it. IF a user wants to go about doing some further research
> particular to their curiosity, it should certainly be possible, but
> seeing the error rates at diverse moments is not one of them as I see
> it. So, I'm not proposing a text file of any size. It doesn't have to do
> everything, but nor does that have to be an all-or-nothing situation.
> Between all and nothing there is a lot of room, and I rather thought
> that there was still a little room for more before threatening to do
> 'ALL'.

You want to make the query: how am I doing at DMP compared to other
scores.

The other way gnubg can support this query is by saving ALL games in the
players' record. It's vital to understand that the current players'
records only store the 3 averages -- it does *NOT* store ALL games!  It
would be ridiculous to only save a few "interesting" match scores in
such file -- it's either all or nothing.

This is a major change to the players' records, and it will break your
existing players' records. 

It's a fairly small task to change the players' records to save all
relevant data, i.e., basically everything from the game statistics, but
you must accept that the only feature we will supply within gnubg will
be similar to the current -- we'll will not supply the feature you
specifically requested (i.e., the error rates at diff. match scores),
since such a feature is best left to a data manipulation program.

Jørn

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