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bug#59082: 28.2; Undocumented `intern-soft` feature with shorthands symb


From: João Távora
Subject: bug#59082: 28.2; Undocumented `intern-soft` feature with shorthands symbols
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 18:14:11 +0000

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 17:49 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:18:57 +0000
> Cc: thievol@posteo.net, 59082@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Of course. And for blue the programmer 

Sorry, it probably didn't help that this "for blue" slipped in when typing on my phone.

> If the docstring reader is ever enhanced, then maybe programmers can refer to symbols there using
> shorthands. Until then, shorthands are Lisp-only.

I don't understand this response.  Are you saying that the problem
doesn't exist, or are you saying that you just don't care?  Or are you
saying something else?

I understand. I'm saying docstrings are outside the functional scope of shorthands, so you should just use longhand there for now. Same as you must use in M-x and other "global" contexts. Because shorthands are not new names for symbols.

But I'm also saying that, perhaps, for the particular case of docstrings, which are inherently file-local constructs, the "docstring reader", whenever it lives, could be enhanced to allow shorthands, too. So the intermediate representation of the  docstring mini-language could understand that the text x-foo actually references the symbol xeno-foo. And then C-h f would display the true symbol name as it usually does.

But this would basically be a new feature, not strictly necessary to enable the things that shorthands are originally designed for. But convenient, for sure.

João

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