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bug#59082: 28.2; Undocumented `intern-soft` feature with shorthands symb


From: Thierry Volpiatto
Subject: bug#59082: 28.2; Undocumented `intern-soft` feature with shorthands symbols
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2022 20:16:48 +0000

Hello,

after having hard time getting the longhand name of a shorthand symbol
at point (with regexp and the local value of read-symbol-shorthands) I
discover it is easy to get this information with:

    (symbol-name (intern-soft (thing-at-point 'symbol)))

Is this the right way to get this information and if so is it
possible to document it?

Thanks.



In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, Motif Version 2.3.8, cairo 
version 1.16.0)
 of 2022-09-12 built on IPad-S340
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12013000
System Description: Linux Mint 20.3

Configured using:
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Memory information:
((conses 16 769108 63304)
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-- 
Thierry





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