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Re: Crashes at C-x 1


From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: Crashes at C-x 1
Date: 01 Nov 2001 18:28:25 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1

>>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> writes:

    Eli> On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Glyn Millington wrote:

    >> "Eli Zaretskii" <address@hidden> writes:
    >> 
    >> > Do you have a core file?  If so, could you send the results
    >> > of the "bt" command when you debug it with GDB?
    >> 
    >> No core-dump file that I can see anywhere - does that mean it
    >> isn't a "crash"?  Forgive me, I'm new to this.

    Eli> It might mean that Emacs exits (though it shouldn't have).

    Eli> Let me turn the table and ask you why did you say it crashed?
    Eli> Did you see anything abnormal when that happened, or did you
    Eli> assume it crashed because it exited when you didn't expect it
    Eli> to?

    Eli> Crashes are normally accompanied by system messages like
    Eli> "Program terminated abnormally.  Core dumped."  or something
    Eli> like that.

It could also mean that the user is using a desktop system where
a) ulimit -c 0 is effective since the average desktop user is not
supposed to know what to do with core files.
b) his Emacs is started from a cute little icon on stderr messages
disappear into some black hole.

In fact, you have to fathom that the majority of systems nowadays are
set up like that per default.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
Email: address@hidden



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