Fwd: Re: find -links n

[Günter Wallnig]

Please apologetic errors mean with the answer, I retrieve the answer to 
the list hereby.

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff:        Re: find -links n
Datum:  Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:57:16 +0200
Von:    Günter Wallnig <address@hidden>
An:     Bernhard Voelker <address@hidden>


Hello Bernhard,
thanks for your answer.

Am 15.07.2013 10:03, schrieb Bernhard Voelker:
> On 07/14/2013 12:19 PM, Günter Wallnig wrote:
> > I believe to have found a mistake in "find" with the param "-links":
> >
> > Apparently, only the second Column of the output of "ls" looks at what
> > is probably wrong with a directory!
> If I understand correct, then you are saying that the second column of
> the "ls"-formatted output shows a different number than the number you
> have been searching for with "-links N", e.g.
>
>    $ find -links 5 -ls
>    17311045    4 drwxr-xr-x   5 berny    users        4096 Dec  9  2011 
> ./gnulib/.git/refs
>    15481120    4 drwxr-xr-x   5 berny    users        4096 Dec  9  2011 
> ./.git/refs
>    16913157    4 drwxr-xr-x   5 berny    users        4096 Mar 27 19:57 
> ./find/testsuite
>    22825398   32 drwxr-xr-x   5 berny    users       32768 Mar 27 19:56 ./tests
>
> This is the output format of "ls -dils" as mentioned in the manual.
> The 2nd column isn't the number of links but instead the number of
> 1k-blocks used for this file/directory.

I understand, what you meaning, but has your directories 5 links? Can
only be soft link?

I have used different options, only -il ... so give me a "2" in output
> $ ls -il |grep Ablage
> 164407 drwxr-x--- 2 guenter guenter 4096 2013-07-14 11:23 Ablage
my shown directory "Ablage" has no content nor is linked anyway!

With the following command I got
> $ find -links 2 |grep Ablage
> ./Ablage
that is in my opinion wrong, because the used directory does not have
links! Nor any files or directories, it's empty.

I falsely assumed that the number "2" in the 3rd column information over
the number of links, particularly since the output of the next command
let that assume this

> The number of links is in column 4.
my output looks similar
> $ find -links 2 -ls |grep Ablage
> 164407 4 drwxr-x--- 2 guenter guenter 4096 Jul 14 11:23 ./Ablage
Thus does the normal command “ls” probably supply wrong information?
But I found here also a sign of linked in column 4!

Version of my ls
> $ ls --version
> $ ls (GNU coreutils) 8.5
> Copyright © 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> Lizenz GPLv3+: GNU GPL Version 3 oder höher
> <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
>
> Geschrieben von Richard M. Stallman und David MacKenzie.

But nevertheless the wrong output of the command “find --links 2”… it
shouldn’t anything show, in particular no directory?

There are no hard links in the current directory, if I produce however
one, gets I:
> $ ln Wichtiges.txt Test.txt
>
> $ find -links 2 -ls |grep txt
> 164426 4 -rw-r----- 2 guenter guenter 1842 Jul 14 22:53 ./Wichtiges.txt
> 164426 4 -rw-r----- 2 guenter guenter 1842 Jul 14 22:53 ./Test.txt
that looks correct ... and more examples in same directory:
> $ find -links 2 -ls |grep -w 2
> 164426 4 -rw-r----- 2 guenter guenter 1842 Jul 14 22:53 ./Wichtiges.txt
> 164331 4 *d*rwxr-x--- 2 guenter guenter 4096 Jul 7 17:58 ./Bescheid
> 164426 4 -rw-r----- 2 guenter guenter 1842 Jul 14 22:53 ./Test.txt
> 164375 4 *d*rwxr-x--- 2 guenter guenter 4096 Jul 7 17:55 ./Sonstiges
> 164409 24 -rw-r----- 2 guenter guenter 20673 Jun 30 15:53
> ./Sonstiges/Einkauf.ods
> 164407 4 *d*rwxr-x--- 2 guenter guenter 4096 Jul 14 11:23 ./Ablage
> 164330 4 *d*rwxr-x--- 2 guenter guenter 4096 Jul 12 23:59 ./Elster
> 164409 24 -rw-r----- 2 guenter guenter 20673 Jun 30 15:53 ./Einkauf.ods
>
> $ find -samefile Test.txt
> ./Wichtiges.txt
> ./Test.txt
>
> $ find -samefile Einkauf.ods
> ./Sonstiges/Einkauf.ods
> ./Einkauf.ods

Again, please excuse my bad English, it's not my native language.

Greetings from Berlin in Germany
Günter