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Re: [Swftools-common] Swftools, PDF and HTML5

From: Lasconic
Subject: Re: [Swftools-common] Swftools, PDF and HTML5
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 17:02:50 +0200

Well, it's more than images. Read the whole document. All the text is selectable so it's not an image. Some images are pngs apparently. Each page is a combination of images and text: An HTML div. The default view is indeed all pages in the same HTML page. But you can change the view to slideshow or book at the bottom.


2010/5/7 Martin Perez <address@hidden>
Thanks Lasconic. I didn't find any HTML5 based document until now.  Is it me or that viewer is quite crappy? Just a bunch of images put together in the same page...


On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Lasconic <address@hidden> wrote:

2010/5/7 <address@hidden>

I've been curious about this as well. I've read on OSNews and techcrunch that Scribd has moved a couple hundred thousand documents to their HTML5 viewer. But does anyone actually have a link to one? The Scribd site has no press release or FAQ on the subject (that I could find). I'd like to see how it looks.

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From: swftools-common-bounces+james.jones=firstinvestors.com@nongnu.org [mailto:swftools-common-bounces+james.jones=firstinvestors.com@nongnu.org]On Behalf Of Martin Perez
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 10:23 AM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Swftools-common] Swftools, PDF and HTML5

Hi Filip,

Honestly, I don't care very much about what Microsoft or Apple may say. On the other hand, yesterday Scribd announced they were moving out of flash to HTML5. And do not forget that swftools' creator works for Scribd. So now just wondering what may happen with swftools and whether is there any plans.


On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:14 PM, filip sound <address@hidden> wrote:

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:03 PM, filip sound <address@hidden> wrote:
html5 is in no way comparable to flash. the sourcecode of html5 is open to anyone who load the page, _javascript_ is comparable to ActionScript 1 while flash is at AS3. the speed is low and it also crashes the safari browser on iPad. just in case you read Steve Jobs letter about flash - half of it is simply not true.

when html5 is as powerful as flash, it automatically will have the same disadvantages as flash has today.

so don't believe the nonsense some crazy people are spreading these days. it's just a hype started/supported by apple (= steve jobs).

flash is available for android and many other platforms.

do you want everyone to be able to look into the sourcecode of your projects??
i know that flash can be disassembled too but it's not as easy as firefox -> webdev-toolbar -> view generated source code.

have you tried converting a complex graphic to svg and view it in any browser? safari on ipad and firefox is slow in rendering those but as swf its fast.

the market is not moving towards html5. no current browser except safari is supporting html5.

now please tell me that it is all wrong,

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Martin Perez <address@hidden> wrote:

I imagine that as ourselves, many people has taken advantage of this great swftools package to transform documents in several formats to SWF and display them in flash-based viewers.

It looks like though that market is moving towards HTML5 and many players are moving their flash based viewers from flash to this standard. So a few questions arise with regards to swftools and custom viewers. So, is there any plans to provide tools to move from flash to html5? Some kind of swftohtml5. Any plans to an html5 basic viewer? Or alternatively, what would be the necessary steps to move our documents converted with swftools to html5. Perhaps transforming them to svg and using an SWF viewer?

Quite a few questions :)


Martín Pérez


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