Re: Swarm war with Cygnus and XFree for windows, Java Swarm in Windows

[Marcus G. Daniels]

>>>>> "PJ" == Paul E Johnson <address@hidden> writes:

PJ> If anybody has Swarm living in peace with the Cygwin toolkit, I'd
PJ> be glad to know how you do it.  It appears to me now that, when I
PJ> want to use Swarm, I have to change the mounts and the PATH, and
PJ> its a little inconvenient.

Cygwin and Swarm need not be at odds.  Although Cygwin (the
distribution, not just the DLL) has an install program and various
binaries, it really just boils down to getting a cygwin1.dll that will
work with whatever binaries you want.  You should be able to set up
/usr/local, /usr/X11R6 mounts or whatever for XFree.  The main trouble
I could imagine would be if the Cygwin install program wanted to
manage dependencies, dictating a bunch of packages underneath XFree.
If that's the case, you might have to go in and rename the Cygwin or
Swarm cygwin1.dll to something else to avoid conflict.

Incidentally, if the XFree stuff is actually usable, it would be nifty
to include OpenDX on the next Swarm CD-ROM release.

If you're wondering why I haven't thrown out all the InstallShield
stuff now that Cygwin has its own installer it's because the Swarm
InstallShield does a bunch of paranoid clean-up work and handles all
sorts of contingencies that the Cygwin installer cannot.  In addition,
I see little reason to build on top of the Cygwin distribution because
the whole point of the Cygwin setup is to avoid the need for
system-level testing (and thus get faster turnaround on 'net
releases).  The whole point of the Windows Swarm distribution is to do
that kind of testing.

PJ> Another innocent windows question, if you don't mind.  When Swarm
PJ> installed, it did not seem to check if I had Kaffe installed (does
PJ> Kaffe exist for MS Windows? I don't see it on
PJ> www.transvirtual.com).  Where is Swarm-2.1.1 getting its Java VM
PJ> from?

Kaffe is a part of the Swarm install.  javacswarm and javaswarm are
set-up to use Kaffe.  The jdkcswarm or jdkswarm scripts will look in
the system registry for the location of Sun JDK.

PJ> I'm downloading the Sun JDK 1.3 for Windows now, I think I
PJ> understand that using it with Swarm is just a matter of putting
PJ> its bin directory in the path. Correct?

You don't even need to do that; just install it.

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