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Re: [savannah-help-public] ask for some kind of moderation/help with pro


From: joa . cuellar
Subject: Re: [savannah-help-public] ask for some kind of moderation/help with project registration
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 00:35:04 -0700

Hi address@hidden

> Savannah has a set of guidelines that are stricter than most other
> hosting sites, if you cannot follow them that is fine, but then we
> cannot host it on Savannah.  These guidelines might change, so
> sometimes maintainers will get asked to update their projects
> accordindly.  And sometimes issues are found post-fact, like in this
> case.

well, when I call conflict and ask for moderation is not for not being
able to follow the GNU Savannah guidelines. 

I'm glad to follow them, I encourage people at my surroundings to do
that saying that savannah is better than others because you are going to
learn how licensing software properly.

What I find difficult is following  Ineiev's indications:
(obviously my point of view)

- use vague expresions as "many files has..." "some files has..." "Yes,
the copyright notices are OK (where they are present)" ...

- he sais "all are many" so when he sais many files, it can be ALL
files...

- he sais 
>>By the way, since you mentioned your earlier projects, I suggest that you 
>>should also check them and bring in compliance if needed.

But When I talked about my first projects? it was asking for help and
moderation, not in the task! 
He has afterwards opened a task, and place a message in the submission
task saying: "This task depends on sr #109527."
Well, the only connection between the submission task and my first
project is me, so I feel obviously it has become personal.

- he sais:
>>Some files in your tarball still lack notices. If you are not willing or 
>>unable to follow Savannah policies, we'd better not register your package."

when I'm trying to follow guidelines, every criptic Ineiev's message is
answered the best I can with a source code fix.
Why this kind of menace?

So No, I don't feel he is doing a moderation work and I ask for help.

>    it seems it will never end and it's PROPAGATING to other project I
>    have https://savannah.nongnu.org/support/index.php?109527
> 
> The request is very simple, and it is applied for all projects on
> Savannah.  It should be very easy for you, familiar with the project,
> to check that _all_ files carry proper license notices.  The Savannah
> reviewers don't go through every file, they only do a spot check that
> things are looking good, so asking for the list of files is doing the
> job that you as the maintainer of a project are responsible for.

well, the task doesn't say:
"check that all files carry proper license notices"
or easier " there are new files where you have forgotten the license
notice"

it sais:
>>Carefully read Savannah hosting requirements. Evaluate Maimonides against 
>>them. Summarize the work done and the results for each criterion.

And it starts in the submission task by this:

>>So, let me be didactic.
>>
>>This is a homework for you:
>>
>>Carefully read Savannah hosting requirements. Visit your first Savannah 
>>project and evaluate it against them. Summarize the work done and the results 
>>for each criterion.

well, some kind of paternalist strange way of didactics. :-/

happy hacking!
Joa 



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