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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] reading files from qcow2-formated image disk fo


From: Stefan Hajnoczi
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] reading files from qcow2-formated image disk for windows system
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:13:26 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:00:45PM +0000, Blue Swirl wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:27 AM, 马磊 <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Wanlong Gao <address@hidden>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 01/11/2013 11:39 AM, 马磊 wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Daniel P. Berrange <address@hidden
> >> > <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >     On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 09:37:54PM +0000, Blue Swirl wrote:
> >> >     > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:31 AM, 马磊 <address@hidden
> >> > <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > >>> Hi,
> >> >     > >>>     The final effect is as follows:
> >> >     > >>>
> >> >     > >>>
> >> >     > >>> address@hidden Fri Dec 28 ~/honeypot/xen/xen-4.1.2]$
> >> > qemu-img-xen cat
> >> >     > >>> -f /1/boot.ini ~/vm-check.img
> >> >     > >>> [boot loader]
> >> >     > >>> timeout=30
> >> >     > >>> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
> >> >     > >>> [operating systems]
> >> >     > >>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows
> >> > XP
> >> >     > >>> Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
> >> >     > >>>
> >> >     > >>> address@hidden Fri Dec 28 ~/honeypot/xen/xen-4.1.2]$
> >> > qemu-img-xen ls
> >> >     > >>> -l -d /1/ ~/vm-check.img
> >> >     > >>> 【name                 size(bytes) dir?      date
> >> >     > >>> create-time】
> >> >     > >>> AUTOEXEC.BAT 0                file 2010-12-22        17:30:37
> >> >     > >>> boot.ini               211                file 2010-12-23
> >> > 01:24:41
> >> >     > >>> bootfont.bin  322730                file 2004-11-23
> >> > 20:00:00
> >> >     > >>>
> >> >     > >>>
> >> >     > >>>
> >> >     > >>> As you see above, the patch add two sub-commands for
> >> > qemu-img-xen:cat and
> >> >     > >>> ls.
> >> >     > >>>
> >> >     > >>> For details in the patch, please check the attachment.
> >> >     > >>>
> >> >     > >>>
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > Does anyone prefer this feature?!
> >> >     >
> >> >     > Nice feature, but this approach would just clutter QEMU and give
> >> > only
> >> >     > readonly FAT or NTFS support. I think a more generally useful
> >> > approach
> >> >     > would be to use NBD or iSCSI to export the block device data from
> >> > the
> >> >     > image file (qemu-nbd already exists) and then make a tool that
> >> > uses
> >> >     > some combination of NBD/iSCSI client, all GRUB file systems and
> >> > FUSE
> >> >     > or other user space methods to access the contents of the
> >> > filesystem.
> >> >     > Probably also UML with a simple guest agent could provide
> >> > read/write
> >> >     > access to any file system that Linux supports.
> >> >
> >> >     The latter is what libguestfs already provides. It boots a Linux
> >> > kernel
> >> >     and mini initrd containing a guest agent, to provide APIs to do
> >> > arbitrary
> >> >     manipulation of guest OS images.
> >> >
> >> >     The reason libguestfs used a linux guest was precisely to avoid
> >> > having
> >> >     to re-implement drivers for every filesystem in existance like this
> >> >     patch is trying todo.
> >> >
> >> >     I don't think QEMU wants to be in the business of maintaining
> >> > filesystem
> >> >     drivers, so I'd reject this proposed patch.
> >> >
> >> >     Regards,
> >> >     Daniel
> >> >     --
> >> >     |: http://berrange.com      -o-
> >> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :|
> >> >     |: http://libvirt.org              -o-
> >> > http://virt-manager.org :|
> >> >     |: http://autobuild.org       -o-
> >> > http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :|
> >> >     |: http://entangle-photo.org       -o-
> >> > http://live.gnome.org/gtk-vnc :|
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This feature could be configured to be optional in make file
> >> > configuration according to individual preference.
> >> > _In addition, the fat32 and ntfs filesystem driver will not change for a
> >> > long time so it needs no much maintainence  once implemented._
> >>
> >> As Daniel and Stefan said, you can try to use libguestfs [libguestfs.org]
> >> and qemu-nbd.
> >> In libguestfs, we provide virt-cat, virt-ls, etc. And support all the disk
> >> type which QEMU supported.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Wanlong Gao
> >>
> >
> > I used libguest, it's startup takes too long to meet specific requirements
> > under some time-sensitive circumstance.
> 
> For maximum speed, the backing formats (QCOW etc) should be
> implemented in the kernel directly, somewhat like device mapper or
> /dev/loop device.
> 
> A very simple and fast approach without any changes would be to
> convince the guest to not to use partitions and instead use one file
> system for an entire block device, then the backing file (in raw
> format, no QCOW etc) could be manipulated by mounting it with the
> loopback device.
> 
> Alternatively, we could implement in QEMU a way to concatenate several
> separate files into one, each of the files containing a partition or
> some space for partition table. Then the files could be again accessed
> with loopback mount. The partition table could be also synthesized.
> 
> I don't know why the loopback mount in the kernel does not support
> partitions, that would also solve the problem when using raw files.

The loop module supports partitions through the offset= parameter.

For example:

# fdisk -lu /dev/sda
[...]
   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
   /dev/sda1   *        2048     1026047      512000   83  Linux
   /dev/sda2         1026048   500117503   249545728   83  Linux
# mount -o loop,offset=$((2048 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt/boot  # mount sda1

Stefan



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