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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking
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Paolo Bonzini |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking |
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Fri, 25 May 2012 15:37:15 +0200 |
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Il 25/05/2012 15:30, Luiz Capitulino ha scritto:
> On Fri, 25 May 2012 15:19:28 +0200
> Paolo Bonzini <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Il 25/05/2012 15:18, Luiz Capitulino ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>> Still not sure what you mean...
>>> I meant it's a similar case. kqemu was a special case and maintenance
>>> burden.
>>> We've dropped it and didn't regret. What's stopping us from doing the same
>>> thing with vlans?
>>
>> That we have an alternative, and that -net dump is actually useful.
>
> I haven't reviewed the series yet, but -net dump can work without this,
> can't it?
-net dump requires putting a back-end, a front-end and the dump client
in the same VLAN. So it is quite useless without this.
> It's always possible to have alternatives in qemu, the point is how far
> we're going on bloating it.
>
>>>>> we removed kqemu and didn't give an
>>>>> alternative. This time we are providing an alternative.
>>> Alternatives already exist, we don't have to provide them.
>>
>> Alternatives that require you to have root privileges (anything
>> involving libvirt or iptables) are not really alternatives.
>
> It seems to me that vde doesn't require root, but even if it does, moving
> this outside of qemu would also be feasible.
Yeah, VDE probably includes something like an hub. But then we could
drop even "-net socket", "-net udp", "-net dump", and only leave in
vde+tap+slirp. Or even move slirp into VDE. :) That's a very different
thing.
Do distributions package VDE at all?
Paolo
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, (continued)
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Markus Armbruster, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Stefan Hajnoczi, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Markus Armbruster, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Luiz Capitulino, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Paolo Bonzini, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Luiz Capitulino, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Paolo Bonzini, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Luiz Capitulino, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Paolo Bonzini, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Luiz Capitulino, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking,
Paolo Bonzini <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Luiz Capitulino, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Paolo Bonzini, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Luiz Capitulino, 2012/05/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Stefan Hajnoczi, 2012/05/28
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Luiz Capitulino, 2012/05/28
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking, Markus Armbruster, 2012/05/29