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Re: [Lynx-dev] Retrying without TLS and other Fun Things

From: Karen Lewellen
Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] Retrying without TLS and other Fun Things
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 16:59:01 -0400 (EDT)

Hi Martin,
just as an illustration,  I used lynx  2.8.9.DEV.9
Which is what we have here at shellworld. Our shell service presently runs Ubuntu 16.4...or something like that.
anyway, when I did
I was taken, with no security errors at all to
With the usual hptps and the certificates accepted.
I have no idea what you do there. Still the only time I personally see those tsl errors is when running alpine on the dreamhost shell for my office. I understand fully that running Linux on your own is an entirely different animal. Offering a site that worked in case it helps.

On Tue, 11 Apr 2017, Martin McCormick wrote:

Secure sites these days are mor often than not responding with
some sor of breakdown of the TLS protocol so one gets a "retrying
without TLS" message and then the wheels come off spectacularly
for that site.

I am running Debian GNU/Linux 7 and the version of lynx is Lynx Version 
2.8.8dev.12 (22 Feb 2012).
libwww-FM 2.14, SSL-MM 1.4.1, GNUTLS 2.12.20, ncurses 5.9.20110404(wide)
Built on linux-gnu Nov 23 2016 21:57:17

        Okay, let's try the next version of debian. I have a
somewhat newer system running debian jessie

Lynx Version 2.8.9dev.1 (12 Mar 2014)
libwww-FM 2.14, SSL-MM 1.4.1, GNUTLS 3.3.8, ncurses 5.9.20140913(wide)
Built on linux-gnu Jun  5 2015 11:34:27

On this one, two different secure sites act as if they will load
but then things sort of vaporize. Here are the messages I
captured fromDuckDuckgo. I get the same from another secure site
I go to on the newer lynx only you see the name of that start
page and then one is back in the lynx_bookmarks page as if
nothing ever happened. Here is the Duck
Duckgo fizzle:

Looking up
Making HTTPS connection to

and that's all.

        The older lynx actually works with TLS on DuckDuckgo as
well as several other sites but more and more sites using https
links no longer present a page. Lynx tries with no TLS and the
secure sites rightly refuse to make an insecure connection. The
newer version of lynx may, for all I know, make the connections
but if you can't read the page, it isn't much more useful.

        Since I usually don't use lynx on the newer system, I am
not sure if I have something else configured wrong. I am using
the command-line to a bash instance on both older and newer

Thanks for any constructive suggestions.

Martin McCormick

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