RE: First steps in Lilypond

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Urs,

The link provided is nothing like the Chopin Etude #23, Op. 25 No 11 in my 
Paderewski edition.
Hofstadter in his book "Goedel, Escher, Bach: The Golden Braid" offers a 
mathematical/contrapuntal analysis.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: lilypond-user [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Urs Liska
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 12:13 PM
To: address@hidden; foxfanfare <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: First steps in Lilypond



Am 9. April 2018 20:24:30 MESZ schrieb foxfanfare <address@hidden>:
>Hi everybody, and thank you for your several replies.
>
>I'll try to answer to all and maybe explain a bit better what I think 
>is an issue and the code to demonstrate it:
>
>\version "2.19.80"
>
>\relative c, {
>  
>  \voiceOne
>  \clef bass
>  \time 3/8
>  \key c\minor
>  %THIS IS THE PROBLEM
>  \scaleDurations 2/3 { c16( f' aes \clef treble f'[ d f~] }  <f d'>8)  
> %ANOTHER EXEMPLE  c'8( d' e,\noBeam)  %NORMAL  c8( d e\noBeam) \bar 
> "||"
>  
>  %%%%
>  
>  %THE END OF THE SLUR SHOULD BE ALIGNED WITH THE STEM
>  
>  \shape #'((0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (-0.5 . 0)) Slur \clef bass 
>\scaleDurations 2/3 { c,,,16( f' aes \clef treble f'[ d f~] } <f d'>8)
>  \shape #'((0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (-0.5 . 0)) Slur
>  c8( d' e,\noBeam)
>  c8( d e\noBeam)
>}
>
>I used the \scaleDurations command instead which was a good idea!
>
>Well, as you see, by default, in the first 2 measures of my exemple, 
>lilypond place the end of the slurs very strangely : after the last 
>note!
>And I don't understand why it doesn't align itself with the top of the 
>last stem!
>
>Sure I could use the \shape control, as shown in the measures 4 & 5 
>\shape #'((0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (-0.5 . 0)) Slur
>
>...and this solve my issue
>
>BUT in my initial question, I was wondering if I missed something, like 
>a basic option that would need to be set first and won't need me to 
>adjust every slurs which could encounter this issue!
>
>I tried Urs solution, to play with the default shape. So I added to the
>code:
>
> \override Score.Slur.details = #'(
>      (region-size . 4)
>      (head-encompass-penalty . 1000.0)
>      (stem-encompass-penalty . 30.0)
>      (edge-attraction-factor . 4)
>      (same-slope-penalty . 20)
>      (steeper-slope-factor . 50)
>      (non-horizontal-penalty . 15)
>      (max-slope . 1.1)
>      (max-slope-factor . 10)
>      (free-head-distance . 0.3)
>      (free-slur-distance . 0.8)
>      (gap-to-staffline-inside . 0.2)
>      (gap-to-staffline-outside . 0.1)
>      (extra-object-collision-penalty . 50)
>      (accidental-collision . 3)
>      (extra-encompass-free-distance . 0.3)
>      (extra-encompass-collision-distance . 0.8)
>      (head-slur-distance-max-ratio . 3)
>      (head-slur-distance-factor . 10)
>      (absolute-closeness-measure . 0.3)
>      (edge-slope-exponent . 1.7)
>      (close-to-edge-length . 2.5)
>      (encompass-object-range-overshoot . 0.5)
>      (slur-tie-extrema-min-distance . 0.2)
>      (slur-tie-extrema-min-distance-penalty . 2))
>
>... and I tried to play with all the values (without understand every
>variables) but without succes.
>So, is it normal Lilypond is drawing slurs beyond the last note and we 
>cannot change this default behavior?!
>
>But after reading  this post
><http://lilypondblog.org/2014/01/engraving-statistics-slurs-and-ties/>
>
>wrote by Janek Warchoł, I start to think maybe it is usual to adjust 
>them manually! :-)
>
>
>Mark wrote
>> FoxFanFare,
>> 
>> I set Chopin's Nocturne No. 12.
>> Lilypond allowed me to arrange beams, fingerings, and dynamics to
>suit my
>> reading.
>
>Would it be possible to see the results and maybe the code? I would 
>also be very interesting if someone wrote a complex piano music, with 
>multiple voices like Godowsky...

https://github.com/engraving-challenges/winterwind/blob/master/LilyPond-devel/nathan-ho/first-draft.pdf

This is essentially untweaked, and the source is in the same directory.

>
>I know the site Mutopia and I read some exemples (like the Rachmaninoff 
>preludes). But I have to confess that I was not impressed by the output 
>of most of the scores... In comparison to a professional publisher I 
>mean...
>Hope I'm not insulting anyone here who sent scores to this website...
>
>


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