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Re: short Musikmesse minutes


From: Francois Planiol
Subject: Re: short Musikmesse minutes
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 08:03:06 -0500

Price could be an argument to introduce in GNU and free world. This
was mis case.
After deceptions with a disapeared GUI (HB-Engraver) and even worse
with the hotline of Finale, I switched to MusixTeX, but this was also
annoying... At this point, I knew only that paper is the better way.
If lilypond had been expensive, I would not have given an eye. And I
was happy not only get (free) lilypond, but also see that some values
I like are also the values of some people in internet.
About professional engraving, engravers are frequently independents,
and the publishers make the prices, so why bother? This is just bad
will from these guys, because in the time of Score, the workflow was
commonly accepted.
And again, music-on-paper-from-publisher will become expensiver, more
and more, anyway.
Francois


2014-03-20 5:30 GMT-05:00, Urs Liska <address@hidden>:
> Am 20.03.2014 10:25, schrieb David Kastrup:
>> Francois Planiol <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> Lily is free and that is a biiiig problem, for salesmen.
>>>
>>> Remember the incandescent lamp? It was not expensive enough and
>>> forcedly replaced by a dangerous CFL with a higher margin for
>>> everybody except the end-customer. So forget it, when it is free. Just
>>> even worse for commerce. (sure there is not some trust-negociations
>>> between engraving programs companies and music publishing job?)
>>
>> Free is not a problem but it also is not much of a selling point for
>> in-house software as pretty much all acquisition costs are dwarfed by
>> running expenses, particularly personnel.  How expensive is personnel
>> that can be trained to work with LilyPond, and how fast are they going
>> to crank out stuff?  And most importantly: when there are problems, is
>> there a reliable place you can throw money at to make them go away?
>
> I think the concept of versioned collaboration offers an interesting
> path here: Start out with a project commissioned to LilyPond experts.
> The lectors will learn very fast how to apply fixes to the musical text.
> And they (and the existing engravers) can immediately get experiences on
> real-life projects. That doesn't replace some fundamental training, but
> is definitely more attractive than telling them to start their learning
> curve from { a b c }.
>
> ...
>
>
>>
>> I think that LilyPond's main strength is transformative use: different
>> page formats, different media, different transpositions, individual
>> variations.
>
> Yes, and I have/had the impression that it _is_ possible now to promote
> this feature. Of course I don't expect the final outcome to match my
> current enthusiasm, but I'll surely keep you informed about my progress.
>
> Urs
>
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