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Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters
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Kurt Kroon |
Subject: |
Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters |
Date: |
Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:53:03 -0800 |
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On 2/26/08 5:39 AM, "Palmer, Ralph" <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi, Kurt -
>
> When I brought up "my" definition, it certainly was not intended to be
> exclusive (as in the only definition).
Nor did I perceive it that way.
> I was trying to point out that there was an alternative meaning to polymeter.
Certainly ...
> I have no easy answer to the problem(s), especially since I think polymeter
> or complex meter can refer to more than time signatures - either initial or
> subsequent.
... which is why I asked the question.
> Are the layered patterns in some West African drumming considered to be
> polymeter, or is that polyrhythm?
That's polyrhythm ... which may simply be polymeter writ small, at the beat
instead of the measure.
> I think western music's recent and rapid exposure to a lot of different
> rhythmic structures, notations, and possibilities have helped create a
> confusing set of terminologies whose definitions haven't settled down yet.
Just wait until I finish the section on proportions (the Renaissance one,
not the usual LilyPond one) -- reading about "time signatures" of 33/9
(triplasuperbipartientetertias) or 51/15 (triplasuperbipartientequintas)
does wonders to expand the mind.
The terminology seems fairly settled to me, but with a lot of redundancy. I
wanted to remove some of that redundancy from a framework that would be
obvious to the casual musician-observer.
BUT, more importantly, I did NOT intend for this framework to be a
straitjacket. Folks who specialize in the tals you mentioned in your last
email on the subject will continue to discuss them with *their* terms ...
but when I ask them to explain it to me (a non-Indian), they can say "Oh,
it's a regular sequential polymeter that groups beats in groups of 3+2+ ...
etc."
I hope this clarification helps.
Regards,
Kurt
- GDP glossary question: complex meters, Kurt Kroon, 2008/02/26
- Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters, Valentin Villenave, 2008/02/26
- RE: GDP glossary question: complex meters, Palmer, Ralph, 2008/02/26
- Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters,
Kurt Kroon <=
- Additive time signatures (was: GDP ... complex meters), Kurt Kroon, 2008/02/28
- Re: Additive time signatures (was: GDP ... complex meters), Valentin Villenave, 2008/02/28
- Re: Additive time signatures, Joseph Wakeling, 2008/02/28
- Re: Additive time signatures, Mats Bengtsson, 2008/02/28
- Re: Additive time signatures, Joseph Wakeling, 2008/02/28
- Re: Additive time signatures, Hans Aberg, 2008/02/28
- Re: Additive time signatures, Joseph Wakeling, 2008/02/28